Turn some things down, looks decent and runs fine here with WOP and such here..... and I have a cruddy 7300LE Overclocked 163Mhz chewing up 400 megs of ram or more!

Cheers, Gunny

at a guess id say you probably need more ram...also keep level of detail radius to medium or below...setting it to high kills my system so im guessing itd do the same to yours

My expierence? well lets say the cub rolls over when you land, you heard me IT ROLLS OVER! I landed at 40MPH in a mission with it, and it rolled over, did it 6 times, same result!, apply rudder, rolls that way! Bah.... I hope they send a patch out lol

Cheers, Gunny

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Did you release the parking brake?

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Aha,ok! I just cancelled my decision! 

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Tee-Hee.... ...!

Your memory serves you well, Micro......!

There was a nice, slight increase in overall quality between FS 2002 and FS 2004, and didn't require an  expensive hardware upgrade to run at the same speed....

...whereas swapping from FS 2004 to FSX requires a hardware upgrade necessitating a complete re-mortgage of the house and the hiring out of the Missus for sufficient funds to obtain a similar effect.....!

LOL...  ...!

Re-mortgaging the house I object to.... ...

...but hiring out the Missus I could cope with......!

Paul... 8)...!

What it comes down to is that you can't buy a computer that can run FSX at it's full potential, and I don't think you'll be able to computer to do so for quite a long time. What I think this means is that you'd better get used to FSX because I think it'll be the last version for a long time, I think we'll be waiting for longer than 3 years for FSXI. Hopefully this means they'll get rid of all the legacy stuff and start afresh.

Paul! You are a shocker! You did exactly the same thing a few years back when FS9 came out. Bought FS9 and then went back to FS2002.
So when do you predict it will resurface from the box and onto your monitor screen next? 9 months time?

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...wake me up next July... ...!

Paul... ...!

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Do you answer all of your own questions? It would appear so.

Hello all,
Heres my experience with FSX. Well about a week ago I picked up FSX and installed it. The first thing I did was turn everything to max. Big mistake! I was crushed . I expected FSX to work as well as FS2004 did. The demo ran great on my machine with everything turned all the way up; why shouldn't the original release? Out of anger with Microsoft, I uninstalled FSX and vowed not to re-install it until a few years from now when I would probably, against my happier judgment, upgrade to Vista and DX10.
I struggled for hours messing with the scenery settings; just making myself more frustrated. I went through my machine deleting stuff I didn't think I needed and defragging my drive. Sadly, no change. This forced the un-install and the thought of Microsoft and Video card manufactuers to be in a coup just to drain us all of our hard earned money.
After reading more posts and seeing that some people were having better luck, I decided to give another go. I re-installed it and changed my LCD from a widescreen to a standard screen. The only resolution my widescreen LCD would work in was 1680X1050, because all other resolutions for wide screen didn't look right. I then was able to change my resolution to 1280X1024. What a difference that made. I was amazed. My FPS went from 5FPS to a smooth 20FPS . I found that autogen scenery really sucks up the resources. It is set to sparse. This is the only setting other than the scenery complexity set to dense that really affects FPS. Everything else is set to this

Detail radius:medium, Mesh complexity:51, Mesh res:76m, Texture res:2m, Water effects:1.x
Play with these numbers and settings. It really makes a difference.
This seems to work for me and the scenery looks great. My machine is pretty powerful so obviously this will only work for those machines on the same level.
Specs are:
IP dual core processor=3.2Ghz
512Mb ATI X1900XT video card
2Gb of ram
Dual SATA drives 150Gb

Note that my FPS do drop drastically to 9FPS in large cities, and airports like LAX. Get rid of the autogen stuff and the program works great.

Maybe these settings will help some people, and maybe not. Just wanted to share my experience with FSX. Good luck all!

Thanks for the advice Foz.

I was in GAME yesterday (Friday) and had FSX in my hand, but something told me to wait for some performance reports from people first and I am glad I did.

I am certainly gonna buy a new graphics card now though so I can run FS9 with Autogen higher than "normal". I notice that you have geforce 6600GT, what is your autogen slider at and how many FPS do you get with that setting??

Had the demo on my system, did a flight around a nice small island, got 18 fps, reinstalled due to virus, tried it at St. Maarten intl., got 1-2 fps with the same settings, 3-5 with medium settings and 5-10 with low settings, looked like poor old FS2000.....

... Lennart, better staying with a nice good running FS9 than joining the crowds and get a horrible looking FS with bad performance....

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........and it automatically switches over, and loads FS 2004.....

.....Cool or what............!

LOL...!

Paul.... ...!

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...Nah!....Paul would NEVER stoop so low...........ridiculous to even think it.....commoner

only 1 card will work, id reccommend something faster than a 6600gt although it depends on the rest of your system DONT get standard pci cards they are really slow, pci express are faster than agp but if you got an agp slot on your motherboard itwont have pci express 

I have a P4 2.8ghz at the moment with 512MB RAM that i will be upgrading to 1GB shortly. I have been looking at 256MB AGP card that seem to float around the £100 mark at the moment in particular the ATI Radeon cards, can someone recommend these? If so what model?? basically I want to run FS9 all sliders max inc autogen at 30FPS.

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FYI....... look at my sig specs below this post....... I can't get a consistent 20 fps on short final into a big city airport with everything maxed and full AI.  But up and away from stuff (bush flying in the mountains or at 30,000..... I'll get 40-60.

I found the front side buss and the processor was just as important as the graphics card.


best,

......................john

...just done another re-run with FSX....
Medium to high scenery, buildings, trees  (Autogen)...Necessary!
No traffic of any sort.
No special water effects.
Custom Weather; Few simple cirrus clouds, visibility set to 5-10 miles.

Frame rates vary between 6 -11 - 15 FPS around 'Frisco Bay. (locked at 15).

But....But...But....

Although I have a FULL install, most of my jittery problems seem to be related to insufficient MEMORY... ...!

I have 3 sticks of 256 Mb of DDR Memory = 768 Mb in total.

A peek at the Hard Drive light see it constantly spooling out data at slow speed, causing the jitters, when it should be spooling smoothly out of high speed DDR MEMORY...lots of it......!

Even sat on the ground with the motor ticking over I see the Hard Drive light constantly flickering away...!!

In my FS 2004, all the running data is contained in my memory, and the Hard Drive only lights up when first starting the program, after that it runs smoothly from memory.......!

So....

I reckon, for FSX to run S M O O T H L Y I need LOADS more Memory installed on my Motherboard... ...!

More flippin' money... ...!

Paul...Is there no end to my frustration?........LOL... .....!

Strange thing is that all those FSX problems with FPS you mention are now happening to me on FS9 It keeps jumping from 5 to 20 fps very fast cousing stutters and jittering all around while it used to be a steady 25 to 30 with all sliders on max. I did a complete reinstall from my C partition to the reletively unused D partition and i get the same crap I have deinstalled it again and i seriuesly considering dumping it forever for FSX becouse i get bad performance anyway
Other games run great by the way, like Battlefield 2 and Lock On and they are not the lightest games for your pc

I have had it for a while now, 2 years of making FS great is all gone

I was playing around with the demo again yesterday evening - originally I found on my rig that it was the external/spot views mainly that crucified my rig, getting something like 2/3 FPS. My cockpit views were bearable. Also my aircraft textures were lousy.

I turned off self shadowing last night and my FR shot up to 15 (target 15). Also my aircraft textures were much improved.

I then pushed all the sliders up to well over the mid points and still had FR in spot view in double digits or just under with water only one notch from max.

I have to say, I was surprised and I don't know why I didn't do this before 

BTW I have an AMD 64 3000+ with my unmasked AGP 6800LE but I'm only running with 1 GB RAM (had to use the other 1 GB for something else...) so it could be even better with the other gig back in.

Has any else been as stoopid as me and not tried turning self shadowing off? If so, you might be quite surprised if you do 

Well, FS lovers, I've not seen anyone recommending to turn off self-shadowing before (but then again, I may have missed it as I don't get around very much.. ??? ) but doing so has transformed the demo for me. BTW - it's in settings..aircraft..aircraft casts shadows on itself.

I just took off from Bradshaw in the CRJ in a heavy thunderstorm (lightning, heavy rain, rain reflecting on runway, spray from wheels while taxying and from jet blast when engines spooled up for take off) and flew straight into heavy cloud, flew away from the airport for several minutes, called up Tower for directions to return and landed again, all manually (ie like a simulated emergency - great fun, real seat of pants stuff).

In cockpit and external views FR hardly fell below 16 FPS (target 16)

Have to be careful - at this rate might end up buying it...  ???

paul take a look here try some of the fixes, ive managed to get 35FPS min and 55FPS max (unlimited ofcourse) my applying some of the settings, and im running everything on high except for aircraft which is on ultra high.
you may not be able to run that high but you iwll probs get more FPS at your current settings

john

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Thereby removing a lot of the new features of the new sim.  Ditto on all the "reduced texture" fixes....... taking OUT what was supposed to be what you were buying.

I still thinkwaiting until the hardware catches up  may be the way to go here.

best,

.....................john

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Yes, but people are missing the point of what I've said.

By not activating self shadowing I've achieved an enormous FR increase (from 2 to 15) which has enabled all the other swanky new features to be switched ON.

People must read things a bit more carefully   

Seriously, self shadowing is something you have to look quite closely to see anyway but I was not aware that (on my rig at least) it's a HUGE FR hog.

I'm only suggesting that anyone experiencing similar problems to me (and I know that there are one or two  ) might like to look in the same area to achieve an IMMEDIATE improvement with little lost in the way of new features.

See?

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..lol...shouldn't that be "You can't beat a nice bit of Bully.....".

(English TV show catch phrase............commoner