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Sep 28^th, 2006 at 6:17pm

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So was looking on the internet for a good deal. Started with Amazon. Checked out Germany, the UK and USA.

FSX Standard USA $44.99 which is €39 or 27 Pounds Sterling

FSX Standard UK 60 Pounds Sterling which is $95 US
FSX Standard Germany €74.99 which is $76 US

So what is the rip of factor running at in your part of the world?

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Reply #1 - Sep 28^th, 2006 at 6:50pm

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Im in the USA and im ordering FSX Deluxe from amazon, heres what its costing me:

Item(s) Subtotal:    $64.99
Shipping & Handling: $4.98
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Total Before Tax: $69.97
Estimated Tax: $0.00
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Grand Total: $69.97

costing a bit but oh well

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Reply #2 - Sep 28^th, 2006 at 8:07pm

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I'm guessing that since the Euro is stronger than the Dollar at the moment, you Europeans have to pay a bit more. Sucks to be rich, eh? Grin

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Reply #3 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 2:40am

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In Thailand, i'm gonna get FSX Deluxe, at my local game shop, for about 600 baht.

Which is about (prepare to smack yourselves...) $15-$16 give or take abit...

Don't hate me cuz i liv in the perfect place...

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Reply #4 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 6:49am

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In Thailand, i'm gonna get FSX Deluxe, at my local game shop, for about 600 baht.

Which is about (prepare to smack yourselves...) $15-$16 give or take abit...

Don't hate me cuz i liv in the perfect place...

In your neck of the woods pirating films etc is very big business. I was able to buy a film some years ago on dvd before its release to the cinemas!!! I suspect at that price your copy of FSX will be just that, a "copy" If it works lucky you!!!! If it doesn't then you will get what you paid for!!!
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Reply #5 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 6:50am

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I'm in the UK and have pre ordered online from PC-Aviator. Cost was $69.95 for the deluxe version plus p&p which made it about £42 GBP.

Also get 3 free editions of PC-Aviator and a free de-frag program too.

Sounded like a good deal to me and hopefully has saved me a few ££££££'s too Grin

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Reply #6 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 8:15am

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I'm paying nothing....That's cause I'm not getting FSX Tongue

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Reply #7 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 9:54am

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...as for me....

There is one very important question which I need a definitive answer to before I even consider purchasing FSX....

Will it install and run on computers which do not have Windows XP Service Pack 2 installed*...?

If not, then it's no good for me... Cry

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Reply #8 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 11:04am

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In Thailand, i'm gonna get FSX Deluxe, at my local game shop, for about 600 baht.

Which is about (prepare to smack yourselves...) $15-$16 give or take abit...

Don't hate me cuz i liv in the perfect place...

How is the military coup going by the way??? Wink

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Reply #9 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 1:00pm

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I'm paying nothing....That's cause I'm not getting FSX Tongue

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I think we've got the point.

My advice would be to order from the US, or anywhere else you can (permitting that delivery costs don't exceed the price!).

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Reply #10 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 1:06pm

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...as for me....

There is one very important question which I need a definitive answer to before I even consider purchasing FSX....

Will it install and run on computers which do not have Windows XP Service Pack 2 installed*...?

If not, then it's no good for me... Cry

Cry

...!

Paul... 8)...!

* ...don't ask... Wink

Wink

...!

Paul, it's been a well known fact for nearly two months now that FSX will require Win XP SP/2 fully up-to-date, or better... Tongue

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Reply #11 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 1:39pm

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...as for me....

There is one very important question which I need a definitive answer to before I even consider purchasing FSX....

Will it install and run on computers which do not have Windows XP Service Pack 2 installed*...?

If not, then it's no good for me... Cry

Cry

...!

Paul... 8)...!

* ...don't ask... Wink

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Reply #12 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 1:44pm

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Last news from my Boss, as I'm part of a italian website of FS payware add-on reviews, my FSX deluxe will come free. Grin

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Shame the boss refuses hardheadedly to ship me the hardware to make it work too. Sad

Sad

Seems a moot point, but with FSX I'll have to work (in a way) and I already know the on my rig the FPS and smoothness will suffer badly.

Anyway, here in this electronic forsaken peninsula the price goes between the 70~80 for the standard and 99~109 for the deluxe.

I'll have to think about an upgrade... Undecided

Undecided

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Reply #13 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 2:01pm

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Last news from my Boss, as I'm part of a italian website of FS payware add-on reviews, my FSX deluxe will come free. Grin

Grin

Shame the boss refuses hardheadedly to ship me the hardware to make it work too. Sad

Sad

Seems a moot point, but with FSX I'll have to work (in a way) and I already know the on my rig the FPS and smoothness will suffer badly.

Anyway, here in this electronic forsaken peninsula the price goes between the 70~80 for the standard and 99~109 for the deluxe.

I'll have to think about an upgrade... Undecided

Undecided

If you want new bits to make FSX work find an excuse to goto London and visit one of the monthly computer fairs. Over the years I have bought components for at least 6 rebuilds amounting to half price compared to the shops both in UK and here. I'm thinking of doing the same either before Christmas or early next year in order to build a system for Vista.
http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/
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Reply #14 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 2:04pm

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For those in the UK...

Just Flight - £54.99Dlx/£44.99 Std
Amazon - £49.99Dlx

Other online retailers...

FROOGLE SEARCH

Not a rip off when you consider a great many people will pay 55-75% of this for one add-on...

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Reply #15 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 3:04pm

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When I was a Marketing lecturer I used to tell my classes about the Italian coffee manufacturer who supplied the same products to the UK as they sold in mainland Europe, but at something like 50% higher prices.

When asked why they did this, their answer was, 'Because we can'.

Unfortunately the political no-brainers we have running the UK who have no experience of the real world are even prepared to condone this kind of thing - viz the UK Courts supported an action by a large Jeans manufacturer against Tesco a while back to prevent them bringing in 'grey' imports' that they could sell at 'low' prices ie at prices similar to what the items were being sold at elsewhere.

That's why people get ripped off by international companies - it's very well known for example that for most/many IT items, what we pay in £s in the UK you can buy for the same number of $s in the States. And don't forget that even in the EU, we in the UK still pay waaaay over the odds for the same cars that are being sold in mainland Europe at much lower prices (it's been shown that RHD v LHD has nothing to do with it..).

Oh yeah - want another actual example? A couple of weeks ago I bought a brand new Seiko automatic watch off Ebay from Singapore. Including shipping it cost the princely sum of £26. I was staggered. Add a 1 to the front (approximately) for the official UK price.

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Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 4:22pm

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The reason why many things in UK cost more is because people are prepared to pay those prices!!! Cars are another example. )being one third more in UK than in Europe) But, one can find good prices if one looks hard. The computer fairs I mentioned earlier are an example. I put together a new system about 20 months ago from "new" properly guaranteed parts for the exorbitent price of £250 all in!! That's everything including case etc etc
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Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 5:15pm

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But...
This Thread tells me that my thoughts were not so false.
First i wanted to order FSX in the US. But then i thought that there might be different versions for several countrys. Such as for CFS 3. And though i have no real probs in reading or understanding english language,i really prefer a german version of FSX.

It looks like chicken,smells like chicken,tastes like chicken,but when Chuck Norris says its Beef...then damnit...its Beef!!!

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Reply #18 - Sep 29^th, 2006 at 10:37pm

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If you want new bits to make FSX work find an excuse to goto London and visit one of the monthly computer fairs. Over the years I have bought components for at least 6 rebuilds amounting to half price compared to the shops both in UK and here. I'm thinking of doing the same either before Christmas or early next year in order to build a system for Vista.
http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/
Vololiberista

Volo, you are already in the UK. For you to go to london is like for me to go in Rome. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

But for me to go in London is... like for you to go in Rome exactly. Grin

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With the same amount of money I would have to pay in travel fare and hotels, I'd be able to put together a ninja PC without moving from here. Wink

Wink

Better for me to find another reason to visit London than FSX. Tongue

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Reply #19 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 2:12am

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"When" I was living in London I went to the fairs every month. Now that I live in Italy I have like you to add on the air fare etc so for many things it would be uneconomic. But I still reckon I could save money!!
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Reply #20 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 11:27am

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"When asked why they did this, their answer was, 'Because we can'."

Thanks, RB . . . always enjoy your thoughtful insights

I imagine living in Canada puts us on the other end of this curve: Most of our prices are the same as in America but we pay in CAN$ so right away we save almost ten percent.

Here's yesterday's advert (that's UK for ad) ofr FSX in Canada. Cool.

What else can you buy for $49 bucks? (that's quid in the UK . . . )

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Reply #21 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 11:59am

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What else can you buy for $49 bucks? (that's quid in the UK . . . )

That would be 23 quid for us!

Anyone from the UK, order from Canada. Grin

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Reply #22 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 1:27pm

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That would be 23 quid for us!

Anyone from the UK, order from Canada. Grin

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Factor the costs of getting it delivered over the pond and you'll probably have a somewhat higher price (not to mention possible tax!)...

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Reply #23 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 1:36pm

Tweek Ex Member

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Factor the costs of getting it delivered over the pond and you'll probably have a somewhat higher price (not to mention possible tax!)...

Which is what I said earlier in the thread... Wink

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My advice would be to order from the US, or anywhere else you can (permitting that delivery costs don't exceed the price!).

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Reply #24 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 1:40pm

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That's what happens when you only use the last few posts to get the gist of a thread! Lips Sealed

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Reply #25 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 2:20pm

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Anyone in Europe buying FSX from anywhere outside Europe will have to pay VAT (IVA) at the rate set in the relevant EU country.
The EU tax regulations state that ANY commodity or service purchased outside the EU that is available within will be subject to VAT so you'll be paying VAT on the game plus packaging. Postage is already a tax! Any other form of delivery attracts VAT. Start saving or wait 12 to 18 months for when the price will have dropped and spend your money in the meantime on upgrading your system!
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Reply #26 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 4:26pm

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Factor the costs of getting it delivered over the pond and you'll probably have a somewhat higher price (not to mention possible tax!)...

Surprisingly not. I've had several items delivered from the States - and just as for most other things, what we pay in £s they pay in $s. So deliveries from the States to the UK eg by DHL are surprisingly reasonable Wink

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Oh, and as for tax - you may be surprised to know that you pay tax on your purchases in the UK and the rest of the EU already

It's based on the purchase price of the item.

As far as I'm aware, a computer game would not be subject to Customs Duty - and as the value of the item being imported is lower than you'd be paying if you bought it within eg the UK you'd pay LESS VAT on the imported item, not more.

And from experience, chance is on a single item you wouldn't pay any tax - the cost of administering it would be more than the tax paid.

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Reply #27 - Sep 30^th, 2006 at 4:28pm

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Sorry Volo, I really can't say how but was convinced you were living in UK. Wink

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Anyway, it seems that the one paying FSX less than anyone else here, will be old lil' me. Wink

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Now I only need someone to gift me a new and powerful rig. Who wants to be my benefactor? Grin

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Reply #28 - Oct 1^st, 2006 at 5:43am

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In your neck of the woods pirating films etc is very big business. I was able to buy a film some years ago on dvd before its release to the cinemas!!! I suspect at that price your copy of FSX will be just that, a "copy" If it works lucky you!!!! If it doesn't then you will get what you paid for!!!
Vololiberista

Actually, i checked with the guy and it is a real version. Ya see, most hot games in Thailand are sold at about 1000 baht, due to the not-as-high pay that the average thai guy gets, but if the game isn't that hot, then the price goes down abit. The reason why the FSX Deluxe i'm getting is that cheap, is because in Thailand (or Phuket to be more specific) Flight Simulation isn't regarded as really cool, so the price goes down, while really cool stuff like NFS or Burnout etc. has prices go up.

BTW, i know what'cha mean about Thailand being sort'of 'copy central'. It ain't nice, but when u consider the real prices of certain things, u may reconsider...

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How is the military coup going by the way??? Wink

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The coup is fine, hasn't affected me at all...

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