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Aug 17^th, 2006 at 4:09pm

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,,CT will enjoy this, no doubt. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - Aug 17^th, 2006 at 11:51pm

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Yeah, the FX series is terrible value for the money. It overclocks poorly and a Conroe that costs half the money beats it out of the box.

I don't know why AMD didn't cut the price of the FX in half. Maybe they know only morons will buy it so they might as well keep the price the same.

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Reply #2 - Aug 19^th, 2006 at 11:22pm

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Yeah, the FX series is terrible value for the money. It overclocks poorly and a Conroe that costs half the money beats it out of the box.

I don't know why AMD didn't cut the price of the FX in half. Maybe they know only morons will buy it so they might as well keep the price the same.

The 5000+ overclcoked beats the FX62.. for less than 1/2 the price.

Also, the lastest real world tests are showing conroe is not what it was being hyped up to be.

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Reply #3 - Aug 20^th, 2006 at 7:51am

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The 5000+ overclcoked beats the FX62.. for less than 1/2 the price.

Also, the lastest real world tests are showing conroe is not what it was being hyped up to be.

Yeah, but in them tests it's GPU limited, I could chuck my Prescott and it would probably get slightly less Tongue

Do a 6600GT review comparing the AMD fx-62 and a 3.4ghz Pentium 4 and I doubt there'll be a diferance.

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Reply #4 - Aug 20^th, 2006 at 4:32pm

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Also, the lastest real world tests are showing conroe is not what it was being hyped up to be.

Still better than AMD's preformance though, and its still by a margin.

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Reply #5 - Aug 21^st, 2006 at 12:03pm

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Still not worth upgrading my San Diego rig though, not until I need to anyway, and then I can always pick up a cheap AMD dual core if I need to in a pinch.

But then I'm a tightwad Wink

I reckon the video system is far more important at present anyway than CPU speed. I mean, a switch to Conroe would be nice, I just can't justify it at the moment.

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Reply #6 - Aug 21^st, 2006 at 12:50pm

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Still not worth upgrading my San Diego rig though, not until I need to anyway, and then I can always pick up a cheap AMD dual core if I need to in a pinch.

But then I'm a tightwad Wink

I reckon the video system is far more important at present anyway than CPU speed. I mean, a switch to Conroe would be nice, I just can't justify it at the moment.

and there you have it.... unless your running less than a good 939 system with a decent video card, upgrading is money DOWN THE DRAIN

When the newer hardware arrives next year having a conroe is not going to improve DX10 LOL!!

AMD knows that

Which is why they put thier investment into what WILL make it run better.

he he he

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Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2006 at 9:18pm

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Like what? K8L is only K8 with minor upgrades, and two more cores. Everything AMTi has said they are doing is 4 x 4 (which will suck harder than ViiV) and Torrenza. Oh yea, they are also trying to work on a project that will replace PCI-E x16.

Intel on the other hand is releasing Kentsfield at the same time as K8L and Torrenza. Its also planning to release a new core every two years. Now how AMTi plans to keep up with this I have no idea, they just lack the funds.

Ive said it before and I will say it again. AMD bought ATi because they knew that if they didn't merge with another company they would go under due to Intels massive wake.

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PS: I also find it funny that you all mock me for being an Intel fanboy when you all lash out against me when I bash AMTi

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Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2006 at 10:01pm

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If Intel or AMD had no competition I think the consumer would lose. I like having both companies around.

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Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2006 at 10:35am

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If Intel or AMD had no competition I think the consumer would lose. I like having both companies around.

Of course they would, if one was to go bankrupt the other would raise their prices to insanely high levels.

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Reply #10 - Aug 25^th, 2006 at 10:45am

PisTon Ex Member

Isn't 4x4 already out, but just for servers?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010200302+1071310162+1071518098...

Oh, and me want Dual socket 771 mobo with dual 3ghz Woodcrest + Dual Radeon X1950XTX. Grin

That would own.

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Reply #11 - Aug 25^th, 2006 at 6:59pm

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Ive said it before and I will say it again. AMD bought ATi because they knew that if they didn't merge with another company they would go under due to Intels massive wake.

Cam... I cant believe you would make such a statement when AMD spent BILLIONS... not millions for ATI

A company with that much capitol is not in any danger or coming any where near going under.

Now come-on Grin

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Reply #12 - Aug 26^th, 2006 at 12:12am

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Cam... I cant believe you would make such a statement when AMD spent BILLIONS... not millions for ATI

A company with that much capitol is not in any danger or coming any where near going under.

Now come-on Grin

But when I look at Intel's worth vs AMD's worth, and the fact that they had to borrow money to make the transaction....... well draw your own conclusion.

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Reply #13 - Aug 26^th, 2006 at 12:16am

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Isn't 4x4 already out, but just for servers?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010200302+1071310162+1071518098...

Oh, and me want Dual socket 771 mobo with dual 3ghz Woodcrest + Dual Radeon X1950XTX. Grin

That would own.

No no, those are server / workstations. The idea is for a media center or gaming rig. Useing say two FX-34s, and two 7905GX2s to creat a insane graphical expirence.

So in short 4x4 is suppost to be a gaming / media workstation, not a rendering / serving one. Basically take VIIV and expand it. In my personal oppinion there just isn't enough market to make it worth it.

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Reply #14 - Aug 26^th, 2006 at 1:42am

Nick N Ex Member

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But when I look at Intel's worth vs AMD's worth, and the fact that they had to borrow money to make the transaction....... well draw your own conclusion.

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Cameron

Borrowing is how it works. You don’t take your entire worth and liquidate it for a buyout. Even if you’re worth 500 billion you use the system so you retain your assets. It has less risk that way too. There are major tax advantages to borrowing that kind of money.

Intel would borrow to buy another company as well.. they are not stupid. Geeze

You have allot to learn about business there kiddo.

Grin

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