SHUT UP ITS A FREAKING DEMO.  How freaking stupid do you have to be to complaine about AN UNFINISHED ALPHA VERSION DEMO. MS said that some things wont work, and they didnt. The most recent complaint was jasper who claims MS lied to all of us even though others were able to do what he wasnt able to.  Diffrent computers have diffrent results, thats how it works. Im tired of coming into the FSX forum and seeing all of your patetic little complaints. "I can't see through the window" "I cant get a FS9 plane to load" FSX DEMO wasnt made to workk 100% you need to wait untill the FULL VERSION comes out, if it doesent work then, and MS has NOT Acnoledged this, then AND ONLY THEN may you complane. Aslo you have verry little right to criticize and complane about this unless you think you can do better. If you think you can, by ALL MEANS DO IT! I would love to see something better. Untill then i will be happy i was able to play FSX and get a prieview of the sim and i personally am very excited about it.  Now enough complaineing, if you have nothing good to say go to abother section, WE HAVE PLENTY. Thank you and good day, i hope i didn't offend anyone too much 

Amen, Brother.......
Splash (Ed)

Could you use paragraphs in your next rant? Difficult to read else.

Even though I am dedicated FS fan and I support Microsoft by being its unofficial guinea pig [ ], I believe Jasper's early comments in regards to the backwards compatibility issue was only out of ignorance [in which I am ok with] because he didn't know much about the other addons that were recently tested by Rollerball. Am I right, Jasper? maybe not [ ]. His view over the whole issue quickly changed as he came to realise that it was mainly a hardware issue and not really a demo bug after all. So you can drop the comment about Jasper B****ing.

However, I do strongly agree about BAW's other examples.

There is one thing I like to address. Rumors. For example: I see people in forums [outside of SimV] that actually say negative things as if they were "fact" without backing them up. At one time over at the FS2004.com forums there was this one guy who claimed that he went to Oshkosh and tried out the beta version. All he ever said was:

"Don't buy it. It's a piece of crab. It's no better than FS9."

He didn't say "I think" or "in my opinion". Therefore he was spreading such a rumor as if it was fact without either providing visual proof and without even elaborating as to "why" it's no better than FS9. And believe it or not, a few other members actually believed him without question.

It only takes one to spread the rumors like that. Imagine having a few doing the same thing. Had this man been more constructive with his criticism [which Microsoft is looking for - as it seems these days] I would have believed him.

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It will be very, very, very different in the release version.  Realize one thing, if nothing else...

...FSX is in the capable hands of professionals, not a garage full of script kiddies...

The demo was released at the very beginning of the Beta-test phase, where MS told that program performance was not optimised at all yet.
I personnaly expect the full product to run better than the beta demo.

It's a demo which was made out of a beta. That beta is already old, many bugs are gone

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John (Sir_Jon) already has and posted pics. He reports excellent results.

I just cannot understand how anyone can criticise this demo. I was unhappy in the beginning because my rig's performance at high settings was unusable. Since then I've cut things down and I'm constantly amazed by the demo's feature richness compared to earlier versions.

Let's get one thing straight. This is NOT a picee of software that's been designed to run on low-end kit. It never was intended to be and it will NEVER do so. It's brand new for goodness sake and cutting edge. If your kit isn't you can't expect great results. Mine isn't and I realise now that I have to accept that and find a way of upgrading if I want to experience everything this software is capable of delivering. No good going off at MS if you're still running a 3 year old Duron and an MX graphics card!

Everyone talks about the new water - and yes, it's amazing (although a FR hog). But today I saw the birds for the first time (they seem to be associated with the large ships - go have a look for yourself) and even black and untextured (they were in my sim anyway) it's obvious they will be highly effective and a great contribution to the sim's realism. Same goes with all the moving traffic.

And that's the point. This sim is probably as close as you can get for realism even with the latest cutting edge PC technology. And that's what will make it such a fantastic success. So fellas, stand back and shut up for a while. There's never been anything like it before and I'm sure that in the future there will be many more similar 'total immersion' experiences to come. But it's probably the first (to my knowledge) of it's kind and I think you're seeing history being made.

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Nicely put.

My only complaint is the bad spelling and paragraph composition in that first rant! 

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Then you might want to settle in because nothing from Microsoft will ever be bug free.

Re: Rollerball, Hagar & others:

Of course you guys are right, maybe times like these remind us of how important it is to try and remain objective.

Undoubtedly some opinions & comments etc will be challenged , others will be agreed upon. At least our community is unbiassed, and although we may not be aware of it perhaps the software houses are actually taking note of our views.

However, as was suggested maybe time to put this one to bed.

Regards all
Jasper

I have XP SP2 installed and the FS X Demo version installed and started without any problem. Everything was working and tested many kKeyboard functions and all worked well.

Cheese, it has already been confirmed [or at least suggested by retail sites like Amazon] that FSX would be released on early October.

Agree with that.
But I think that the main dilemma they had was about time frame. I guess they wanted to offer a demo as soon as possible, as far from the release a possible, leading to several compromises on functionnalities/stability/performance/etc...
Either we had a demo with bugs and missing stuff, either we would still be waiting two more months until the release to get anything to try... I prefer the first solution

PS: I don't know anything about that, but maybe MS will release another demo after the full product is released ? Would be usefull, for real demonstration purpose I mean.

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Funny thing is that there is a very similar thread as yours on the flightsim.com FSX forum, veeeerrry fun to read 

Here's a link, hope it works:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=3123&...