BAW: "The most recent complaint was jasper who claims MS lied to all..."



Microsoft said a while ago there would be full backward compatibility.

Now, I download the demo and all seems to work well except import textures.

I am not aware of any statement by Microsoft (not that there isn't one) which says that some current hardware might not render imported textures. Hence, their original statement on compatibility has not necessarily held true, at least in some cases.

Why therefore was I accused of branding Microsoft as 'liars' ? when in-fact the very word was not use in my posts.  Please read before making distortions.

I get fed-up of people jumping in on discussions with intent to cause rifts between participants, usually forgetting to look at everything which has been posted, just to have a go at someone.

Perhaps it might be worth considering what kind of sim there would be were it not for us 'moaners',  especially if we did as you say and complain AFTER the final release. I don't see Microsoft doing a product recall somehow.

Also check some of my other posts & threads, you'll see I actually do help people too. Or perhaps you choose to ignore that.

P.S. No one on here is as you say ..." Freakin stupid"
We might get a bit steamed up with each other on occasion, but we don't let go of mutual respect.

Jasper

Jasper - my advice is to ride with it. This started with a somewhat misjudged(?) tirade against anyone who had a bad word to say about the demo and one or two other reactionary dudes have just climbed on the bandwaggon. It happens.

Your other thread was a bit more objective and made a lot of progress. Nothing to be gained by mixing it here.

A demo is usually released to show how well something works not how badly as in the case of FSX!!!

If I am given a demo tv set  and I can't get more than one chanel and it's not in colour and the telecomando doesn't work then I'm not very impressed and probably won't buy the product based upon the Demonstration model!!
And I'm not very likely to believe ANYONE who says "Oh, it'll be all right in the finished product"
M(qualcosa)s would have doine better not to have released the demo. THey have been saying all along that it will only work properly inside Vista and DX10 which themselves are both future events!!! I'll stay with FS9 until both Vista and DX10 are established and bug free!!!
Vololiberista

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I second that.....ya know hukt on fonix werkt 4 me 

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You are talking about software demos that are released AFTER the software has hit the stores, AFTER the software is FINISHED.

FSX demo has been released BEFORE the beginning of the public BETA test. What the hell were you expecting ?? Smooth and complete ? What would the beta test used for then ?? Everybody here knew that the demo was going to be buggy, unstable and with bad performance.

This demo is not there to show you the final product, it's there to give you an initial taste of the main functionnalities. I'm glad MS allowed us to see the product before the release date.

When is the FSX release date and when was the demo released? Yeah, Microsoft will make it 10x better in that short span of time and god forbid if you complain about the demo.

Perhaps there was a dilema at microsoft where in the case of the demo they had to decide on a compromise between showing what was on offer, and trying to get the demo to run on current hardware.

On one hand if they coded in such a way that everything was guaranteed to work, people would have said it was no different to FS9. On the other hand if they code to show what the sim is fully capable of then probably only a very small minority would be able to evaluate it.

Not an easy decision.

My own guess is microsoft want this sim to be a different product, in a class of it's own and from what has been said in other places I believe they really are taking note of consumer preferences. (For once)

I don't profess to be as smart a business man as Bill Gates, but if I were in his shoes I would say there was little milage left in continuing the 'series' the same old way. They've had their sims running now for say 10 years? ??? Not bad going really, but all things do change. Maybe they realise this in the form of FSX.

As for the demo, I  think microsoft have been too remote from our community and should have known we were watching them very closely. Expectations were very high indeed.

Better PR needed?

Although I was not impressed with the demo in certain areas, I do maintain there is a tremendous potential here. Let's hope they don't do anything daft with it.


Jasper

Hey sorry i havent been part of this disscussion scince I started it,  school has got me busy.    Ok Jasper i am sorry about that little rant i did about you and it was out of line. I was just mad about people complaineing about the demo when MS said not evrything would work. This is their first FS demo ever (as far as i know) and i think they did good, they have a few things to learn but i liked it and am excited about the full version. Ok now for the first post's grammer and lack of paragraphs,   sorry im online and dont think about that stuff 

P.S. Im glad this thread was accepted well, was afraid i would start a hate thread twards my anger  (Anyone remember a long time ago with my "Tutorial" wana-be thread in the edited screenies section?)