"FSX will be opitmised for Vista, so you will buy Vista"

Interesting comment, probably more true than most realise. Getting their customer base held in vice-like grip by the gonads is what M$ do best. Sims are not unique in this respect and this is why M$ has the monopoly as a software house, not because what they offer is the best but rather there is no serious competition.

Bloatware, stutterware, poopware, are trademarks of puffed up products designed to force hardware upgrades. This of course provides an excellent back-scratching service to Intel.

Conspiracy? what conspiracy?

Try running CFS2 on a P4 these days and it will run perfectly, even with 64M graphics. It also happens to have the better flight engine out of all the series. On a modern machine massive scenery and terrain data can be run through without glitch. CFS2 scenery is very well understood. The sim is Gmax compatible too.

If anything, the new 'FSX' should have been based on the CFS2 model, where at least FM developers had full access to all aspects and the damn thing now runs flawlessly in virtually any home PC.

I have nearly re-worked CFS3 for use on a private network:

1) I shouldn't have had to do it.
2) Despite everything M$ failed to give access to rocket velocity.
3) It is historically inaccurate, no P80 flew combat in WWII. Where is the Meteor?
4) It is seriously flawed in a number of areas and unless you know where and how to correct things, you have a kids 'toy', not a sim.

It's a question of 'consumer confidence' with me. Basically I have no confidence in M$ products.

They fix EVERYTHING in the last sim I bought from them, and then I'll consider buying another. Also as a gesture of good will to all the sim comminity they 'pooped' on repeatedly for the last five years, I think they should include a free copy of Vista with each FSX purchase, just as a way of saying 'sorry' otherwise be forced to remove the word 'simulator' from their packaging under the trades description act. I.E. simulates what ? certainly their previous efforts didn't simulate aircraft flight characteristics.

No forgiveness from me, I'll not be buying unless it's to pull the crap out of it and scoff at it.

Jasper

In terms of a/c dynamics and flight characteristics FlyII still outpaces FS9. and instead of having to model 2 cockpit versions just one is modelled in 3D!!!!! The default scenery is slightly better than FS9 (the clouds not) AND navigation is "On the Ball" It's the only sim I've seen with ground effect!!

I don't just want to see what the Americans call "eye candy" in FSX. How about proper ATC? Directing a/c via SID's and STAR's with separation and speed notification. Proper navigation visuals and of course proper a/c dynamics.
To me these are much more important than dropping flour all over the computer!!!!!!
I really can't wait to see elephants crossing the African plains from 35,000ft LOL
Vololiberista

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Are you talking to me? Or are you talking to somebody else. Just confused. ???

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You are not forced to model a crappy 2D panel (2D panels sucks, id I say it already ?) and you can stick with a 3D panel. Unfortunatley, because 2D panel still exist in FSX, 90% of the modelers will still continue producing magnificient 3D models for AI only 

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I'm not sure about the default scenery, but I saw some ground effect in FS9. For example with that Swiss Bastion high altitude heliports. My copter can take off only at full power, and as soon as I am no more above the plateform, I just can't maintain my altitude anymore on stationnary fligh. This is ground effetc I think, isn't it ?
My plane (well, helicopter, but anyway) flies better near the ground...

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You can tun it OFF

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Agree with that. But how about the ATC in other sims ? I didn't try Fly II yet, and the only Xplane I used was too old, so I cannot compare...

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Sure, FSX has only one new feature: elephants.
In fact, they should have called it Elephant Simulator, don't you think. It's amazing this crappy ACES team took three years only to develop moving elephants. Ahah, MS really sucks you know  Personnaly, I will never pay 80 euros for elephants. And Vista certainly has sme elephant features too, like elephant icons, elephant sounds for events, and when you install it your computer weight increase, cool  8)

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Not necessarily so. That basically is an excuse for bad dynamics banded around originally by people who, not by their own fault have little comprehension of aerodynamic basics. Not everyone is an expert, M$ knows this only too well.

Some developers specialise in 3D, some in scenery, others objects etc. Each to their own however my particular skills are with sound files and air dynamics.

I can tell you it is perfectly possible to get ACCEPTABLE performance from the flight engines of all the CFS series, FS2002 and FS9. I have compiled / reworked many airfiles in the series.

Obviously, you cannot achieve absolute modelling however this has nothing to do with the fact that M$ individual FM's are basically flawed from the start. They have to be re-written, properly.

I used to rewrite FM's for people, unfortunately having once seen  my work pinched I have a policy of not giving anything away, otherwise I would have been glad to write FM's for an aircraft of your choice, and let you see for yourself. I am sure you would be amazed at the difference.

Of FSX? well I am considering making my own sim based on the CFS2 core, but with FS9 globals and UK VFR photo scenery. This should essentially make a combat sim out of FS9, giving the advantage of common player weather formatting (i.e as per CFS3).

FS9 scenery in CFS2 is well understood.

Why would I bother with yet another sim from M$?

Jasper

Agreed on the 'american Eye Candy'

Too much guff for too long.

Unfortunately, the main market for these products actually believes what is sold represents reallity.


Jasper

Who's bitching?

Plenty of 'NO' replies, if you care to look.