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Jul 4^th, 2006 at 6:04am

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OK anyone got more info on the planes that will be included except the following

List up to now

Extra 300

Some ultralight

B747-800 (or 400 as there isnt a good closeup of this one yet)

Maule (ski and normal gear?)

Beaver on floats.

Jetranger

C172

Beech 58 (far better modeled though, and in classic 'beech' scheme)

Learjet 45 (or a new one?)

Widegon

Some new composite sailplane (may be replacing the Schweizer thing)

Features so far:

Snow landing possible if you have skis, might be a new addition.

Far better wake stuff on amphibians

Cars on the road, you can probably crash into these too.

Guide signs for aerobatics

Scenarios

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Reply #1 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 6:17am

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Features:
- Cloud Shadows
- Boat Traffic
- Airport Vehicle Traffic
- Reflections in the Water

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Reply #2 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 6:37am

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Planes are:

DG-808S High performance sailplane.
747-400
Cessna 172
Grumman Goose (or Mallard Wink

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learjet 45
Beech Baron
Ultralight Trike
Bell 206 Jetranger
Extra 300
Maule
Dehavilland Beaver
Maybe a Global Express
Airbus A321

I know the liveries for airliners are:
World travel
American pacific
Landmark
Orbit
and Soar

The game makes full use of fragment shaders.

You can go into space

ATC sound is improved

On mediam settings the Terrain mesh resolution is 76metre.

Airport vehicles

e3 was on a single 7800GTX

Road vehicles

Ships and ferries

Leisure boats

2d panels can be transparent

Higher resolution Virtual cockpits

Light bloom

WIngflex

Missions

Before you click fly now, actual scenery is displayed in the window that displays your plane

Aircraft cast shadows on itself

Multithreaded

Won't be optimized for dual card solutions (SLI & crossfire)

Cloud shadows

The CES demo video is on a rare 512mb X850XT PE with the computer running on Vista.

Hope this helps

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Reply #3 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 7:08am

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And what we really need for FSX are:
MiG-25
MiG-31
X-15
And anything else that can go over 100k feet

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Reply #4 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 10:32am

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And what we really need for FSX are:
MiG-25
MiG-31
X-15
And anything else that can go over 100k feet

Well the space shuttle could be added, would be a nice adittion since it is one of the "planes" that made history

Of course no dreams about ISS connections, but anyway...maybe in future release MS will allow connections between aircraft, allowing thus the space shuttle attached to the ISS, or any bomber launching the X15 (what's the name for this stuf... is that "mothership" or something like that ?)

Ahhhh... already wainting for FSXI Grin

PS: just thinking -> this linking of aircraft would be usefull for gliders and the X1 as well, and certainly some other aircrafts I forgot, like the fighter in the Zepplin, like in Indiana Jones Cheesy

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Reply #5 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 10:36am

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Last thing: I wouldn't be too optimistic for the Maule on skis... I mean, for sure it will be in the game, but I think it will still be possible to land on the snow (and takeoff of course) with wheels.... but I would be glad to be wrong

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Reply #6 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 11:47am

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It's good to have a thread that can remind everyone ono what we have now seen and confirmed. I kept seeing some posts asking the same questions over and over on many forums when the questions were answered and confirmed many moons ago.

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Reply #7 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 4:36pm

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there's been word that the weather engine has been completely reworked... don't see much difference grafically, but if they can get rid of that invisible visibility barrier, (you know, you're flying in clear skies and all of the sudden, you're in peasoup) i'll be more than happy

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Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2006 at 4:50pm

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You havn't mentioned the new holographic 3D mode. Shocked

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Reply #9 - Jul 5^th, 2006 at 2:17am

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Aircraft So-far:

Boeing 747
Boeing 777
Boeing 737
Default Cessnas
deHavilland Beaver
Grumman Goose
An Ultralight
Maule
Extra 300s
Schweizer Sailplane (or however you spell it)
Jetranger
Robinson R22 (i think they're keeping)
Learjet
Beech Baron/King
Widegon (dunno what this is)
(Old aircraft I think e.g. comet, wright flyer, etc.)
(All aircraft with multiple liveries)

Features:
Snow landings
Better Wake Effects
Vehicles (airport, roads)
sea transport (yachts, etc.)
Missions
Cloud shadows
reflections (aircraft,buildings,water)
bump mapping
more detailed terrain mesh/textures
better ATC
higher resolution V cockpits
wing flex
light bloom/glare
self-shadowed aircraft
removed 99,999 feet barrier
denser autogen
more customizable settings (atc,scenery,airecraft,etc.)

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Reply #10 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 11:40am

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what trailer is the Beech Baron in?

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Reply #11 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 12:21pm

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I haven't seen it in a trailer, but I think it'll be in FSX. Heard it sumwhere Wink

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Reply #12 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 1:17pm

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The sailplane isn't a Schweizer, and I don't think its a Widgeon, but a Grumman Goose.

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Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 10:29pm

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The Grumman Goose is one of the new SEA Plane. If you read the name in FS9, of the schweizer, it says SAIL plane.

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Reply #14 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 11:18pm

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THE ULTRALIGHT IS THE MARINER BLADE!

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Reply #15 - Jul 10^th, 2006 at 1:31am

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The sailplane isn't a Schweizer, and I don't think its a Widgeon, but a Grumman Goose.

Looks like someone a bit confused on which aircraft is which. What's next? Mistakingly thinking that a 737 is a stunt plane? Oh wait... it is a stunt plane... for Ozzy. Grin

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Reply #16 - Jul 13^th, 2006 at 5:54am

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I used to be confused with plane names and stuff when I was 6. dunno how old flyboy is tho. Grin

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Reply #17 - Jul 15^th, 2006 at 9:48pm

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I was wrong. Angry

I heard now that MS will ditch the Century of Flight planes (wright flyer, dc4, etc.). Tongue

But for those of you who like flying them, copy the aircraft you like from the FS9/Aircraft/ folder, and save them as backups. If FSX is as compatible is they say it is, you should be able to paste the aircraft folders into FSX's Aircraft folder, so that you can fly them. Gauges and Effects will not work if the corresponding gauges and effects are not copied. Wink

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Reply #18 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 1:13am

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CRJ-900
and Schleicher ASW-28??? (sailplane)

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Reply #19 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 1:39am

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I heard now that MS will ditch the Century of Flight planes (wright flyer, dc4, etc.). Tongue

That's already been confirmed. You have to remember that there have been people who didn't like having a stock fleet of vintage props when they wanted a bigger stock fleet of either business or commercial jets. There are also those like me who just don't care what planes Microsoft puts in because we almost never use the stock ones anyways.

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Reply #20 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 6:39pm

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Actually, I read that they are only eliminating most of the FS-9 historic aicaft. The key word here is "most" meaning, they will (hopefully) keep a few.

Personally I would like them to keep the J-3, DC-3, perhaps the Ford Tri Motor and DeHavilland Comet.
They can keep the rest. Wink

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Reply #21 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 7:59pm

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They arent ditching ALL the old planes, the Piper Cub is still there

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Reply #22 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 8:22pm

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Will be interesting to see how different the stock Airbus handles vs the 738.

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Reply #23 - Jul 19^th, 2006 at 2:01am

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U like changing the subject quite often dont u? Tongue

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Reply #24 - Jul 21^st, 2006 at 3:57am

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Does this mean that the Mooney goes away?

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Reply #25 - Jul 21^st, 2006 at 4:55am

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I would like some clarification there... Here is the exact sentence out of the Avsim article:
Microsoft will be releasing 2 versions of FS-X. A standard version and a deluxe version. This release includes 24 aircraft and most of the “historic” aircraft from FS9 have been dropped.

What does "dropped" mean ? Dropped into the FSX deluxe box ? Or dropped away ?

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Reply #26 - Jul 21^st, 2006 at 8:54am

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What does "dropped" mean ? Dropped into the FSX deluxe box ? Or dropped away ?

Dropped on the floor while M$ were carrying all aircraft from one sim to another.

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Reply #27 - Jul 21^st, 2006 at 12:20pm

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I would like some clarification there... Here is the exact sentence out of the Avsim article:
Microsoft will be releasing 2 versions of FS-X. A standard version and a deluxe version. This release includes 24 aircraft and most of the “historic” aircraft from FS9 have been dropped.

What does "dropped" mean ? Dropped into the FSX deluxe box ? Or dropped away ?

Generally, it means that most of the vintage type planes that you saw in FS9 "will not" be included in FSX. FS9 represented the "century" or "history" of flight while FSX will represent the "future" of flight. Basically, out with the old and in with the new.

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Reply #28 - Jul 21^st, 2006 at 3:24pm

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Pity... Ive always enjoyed the Schwizer Glider in there. (Although I may not know how to spell it) Grin

I always thought it was awesome to fly a glider that was made 20 minutes from where I live. Schweizer is located at KELM in NY, very close to my house, it doesnt build gliders anymore (they now work on civilian tilt-rotors and unmanned recon helos, plus Sikorski just bought them and they are gonna make Blackhawks too) however there are still training centers for gliding operated there along with a glider-port/museaum on a nearby hill. Maybe someone will make a good freeware one.

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Reply #29 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 4:39am

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Pity... Ive always enjoyed the Schwizer Glider in there

Flight dynamics like a brick with wings, the 20m+ wingspan glider in FSX is way better

With the 2 revies up:
changes in Planes
- 737 -> Now one with winglets
- 747 -> no closeups yet... might be the same
- A321 -> only VC shot and a far away outside shot
- CRJ-whatever -> new one
- Kingair which has an even uglier paintjob than it had in FS9.
- Better looking jetranger
- Piper Cub is still alive
- some better texture work on the C208

Features
- Better mesh
- soft edge shadows
- more tree density (Silverwings like density as default)
- more airport details including moving airbridges

Only major gripe is that there still is no self shadowing on the planes...

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Reply #30 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 5:15am

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Only major gripe is that there still is no self shadowing on the planes...

Yah, um, hi.

If you've seen the latest screenies from many articles, you would change what u just said.

The planes cast shadows on themselves! Wink

The airport terminals cast shadows on the planes! Cheesy

Whenever something is in a shadow, it will be shadowed! Grin

2 werds 4 u:

Wake Up!

Please, research b4 u post. Please get ur facts straight.

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Reply #31 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 5:17am

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Only major gripe is that there still is no self shadowing on the planes...

There IS self-shadowing, what do you mean ???

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Reply #32 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 6:32am

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There IS self-shadowing, what do you mean ???

some of the screenshots dont have self-shadowing (flightsim.com review)

Might have been added in a later stage

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Reply #33 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 6:59am

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I'm also not Russian, and I too like Russian Aircraft. Esp. Sukhuoi-47

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Reply #34 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 12:56pm

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Might have been added [shadows] in a later stage

That's a very good assumption. However, has it ever crossed your mind that they may have just simply disabled it [shadows] in the main menu for better performance? Grin

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Reply #35 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 3:40pm

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The planes cast shadows on themselves! Wink

The airport terminals cast shadows on the planes! Cheesy

Whenever something is in a shadow, it will be shadowed! Grin

Does that also include cloud shadows?

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Reply #36 - Jul 23^rd, 2006 at 3:48pm

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Does that also include cloud shadows?

Check this out. Notice the option for "cloud shadows". Wink

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=248&topic_id=7303&mode=f...

It's a long post and please don't forget to read the whole thing.

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Reply #37 - Jul 27^th, 2006 at 3:59am

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Seen that thread b4! Wink

Awesome thread too.

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Reply #38 - Jul 28^th, 2006 at 4:20am

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Reply #39 - Jul 28^th, 2006 at 7:05am

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Late reaction. Go see a doctor, cuz thats been my signature for a long...............................................

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Time.

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Reply #40 - Jul 28^th, 2006 at 7:21pm

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Does this mean that the Mooney goes away?

Nope, I don't think so. It was mentioned in another thread. (Oshkosh Interview)

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Reply #41 - Jul 30^th, 2006 at 5:54am

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Mooney will stay.

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Reply #42 - Jul 31^st, 2006 at 4:04pm

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THE ULTRALIGHT IS THE MARINER BLADE!

Actually, it's the Air Creation Buggy 582 SL, which is a tricycle-type, two-seat ultralight with a fiberglass shell suspended beneath a hang glider-type wing.

The sailplane is a DG-808S Competition, which is a lightweight, high-performance sailplane constructed with composite materials.

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Reply #43 - Jul 31^st, 2006 at 4:09pm

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That's a very good assumption. However, has it ever crossed your mind that they may have just simply disabled it [shadows] in the main menu for better performance? Grin

Possibly that, or the video cards didn't support Shader 2.1 (which is required for this feature)...

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Reply #44 - Aug 5^th, 2006 at 6:17am