I have a water cooled XP2400+

These are the temps after being on all night with the case open and a fan blowing in from the side, fan was of for 10 mins before I took screen capture.

Also think my HD's are maybe a little hot, I notice that my raid drives are not all showing as there should be 250gig (120 died). Are these normall temps?

Also is it possible for me to clock this and if so... how?  I'm going to build a new one soon so if it dies whilst clocking its not the end of the world.

Here are my specs,


Any comments would be appreciated, would be good if I could tidy this and have it for FS only but think it would struggle.

What software are you guys using to get these temps? I used Speedfan, but I swear to god the temps must have been wrong, any help?

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I posted from the same thing he did... Everest@home

I use speedfan as well.. it is correct on my system with the exception of the 12v rail. Unfortunately there is no way to apply a voltage offset for the PSU in speedfan so on my system it shows -.5 to -.6 less that the actual.



In speedfan you can apply an offset to the temps and the fan speeds in order to get them to read/display accurate numbers. You should use 2 other programs to verify the fans and temps before setting the offsets.

Speedfan reads my temps and fans correctly without offsets.

OH MY GOD  Your watercooled with those temps?!

Dude you need to get a new case. Look at something of the size of the Thermaltake Soprano  or Lian Li PC60. Also clean up those wires!



Its not the greatest pic in the world, but as you can see there are almost no wires in my case at all. Also if you'll notice I have a 120mm fan in the rear of my case, a 120mm in the front, and a 92mm in the window. All of this keeps my temps looking like this



HDDs are 28C for the first one, and 32C for the second.
Remember thats aircooled

Cheers
Cameron

91C or 91F. If its F then thats rathar cool. If its C, then god I hope you like to watch cards melt.

Cheers
Cameron

Jesus H Christ privet Pyle. Do you like cooking your hardware? Wow, I think I just died a little inside.

Cheers
Cameron

Usually GPUs Idle at around 36C, and max out around 63C.

Anything more, and change up your cooling solution.

Cheers
Cameron

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Something is not right... if those temps were recorded with the side of the tower off and a fan blowing on it I would start looking at the possibility of a blockage in the radiator, a warped CPU waterblock or an air bubble in the water system.

Even at that, 55-60c on a water cooled system, is outrageous. Your ambient temp will have a significant effect of the entire system. When the ambient reaches the high 70's and low 80's component temps become very difficult to keep down. Being your ambient in the middle of the night is close to 80F and how many drives you have crammed into the tower without good airflow, I can see why the tower is so hot.

I use a 120mm Scythe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185006 for the rear fan. With the rear fan @ 1600 RPM (full speed) you can hardly tell it is running and it moves ALLOT of air. I do not need it to run that high. It is set via speedfan to run @ 80% when the tower reaches 25c. Below 25c it is set to run @ 50% (800rpm) so my tower is quieter than a water cooled system when idle and runs around 29-32DbA under full load with all fans running.

You do need to get those HDD's seperated so air can get between them and get a larger fan on the rear. A top blowhole fan may not be a bad idea considering your room temp. Go with fans that are rated @ 1200-1600rpm @ 28DbA or less in noise. Use speedfan to control them so they only spool up to high speed when needed. Keep them @ 50-60% when not needed and the airflow should balance out the temps.

Well its not bad, but not the greatest.47C is what I get when at about 50% load.

Cheers
Cameron

Ya but when they review them, they are looking for the cards limit. Not what you would be doing for everyday use.

Look into a Zalman, atleast replacing the thermal compound.

Cheers
Cameron

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Ambient room temp + case airflow + CPU cooler = temp

My room temp right now is 70F and the system idle but 100% overclocked is as follows:



Notice the fan speeds... There are actually 2 tower fans hooked to one motherboard fan port (less than .6A). One on the back of the tower (120mm) expelling air and one on the side (80mm) blowing into the tower toward the CPU cooler. Because of how low I run them and their internal bearing design, they are literally silent and barely heard even at full speed. I run the CPU fan @ 1200RPM at idle and max it at 2000RPM under full load using its in-line speed controller and Speedfan.

Full load after an hour or more of stress nets a 45c-50c temp depending on the ambient air temp of the room but absolutely maxes at 50c. It usually runs about 46c and in the winter, hardly makes it over 44.

EDIT: Here is a sample after running 3D Mark 05 - and - Prime 95, at the same time, looping for 30 minutes:



My PSU also has a thermal controlled fan. Below 42c (internal PSU temp only) the rear PSU fan runs but is quite silent. Above 42c (which it has never seen that temp) a 120mm secondary fan inside the PSU kicks on. At that point it sounds like a vacuum cleaner but it has never reached 42c so the large fan remains off.

During heavy load use it takes about 30 minutes to an hour (depending on the ambient room temp) for my case temp to rise to 25c and kick the main tower fans up. Once they come on it reduces the internal tower temp to 24c within a minute or so. From that point on the tower fans cycle their speed until the load is dropped.

I would highly recommend the Zalman CNPS9500 AM2. It was redesigned from the original CNPS9500 LED and the clip is universal for AM2 or 939 as long as the 939 heat sink bracket on the motherboard has the original AMD HSF clip retainers (not broken off). Also, for the rear of the tower, what makes the Zalman CNPS9500 AM2 work so well is having the right fan on the back of the tower. I use a 120mm Scythe with a Sony fluid dynamic bearing controlled by Speedfan. The more air you move the better the CPU cooler efficiency. If you use large fans @ low RPM they can do the job VERY quietly.

Remember, it’s not just about the CPU HSF…

Ambient (room temp) + case airflow (volume + speed) + CPU cooler (design) = temps




EDIT: I forgot to add... For AMD64 make sure you have the AMD Cool & Quiet processor driver installed, it is enabled in the BIOS and ACPI 2.0 support is also enabled in the BIOS. Doing so will drop the processor idle temp by quite a bit. It automatically lowers the CPU vcore and multiplier when the processor is not being loaded down. I have never had a problem with it causing crashes or stutters in any 3D application.

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Didn't the stock X1900GT get to 87degrees ingame?

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Ouch.

For Jakemaster and anyone else who may need it:

Requires an AMD64 processor...

Description:

AMD Athlon™ 64/FX Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2 - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. Download this Setup Installation program (EXE) to automatically update all the files necessary for installation. This package is recommended for users whom desire a graphical user interface for installation. This .EXE driver is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports AMD Athlon 64/FX processors on Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 x84 and x64 Editions.

Download:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/amdcpusetup.exe


Instructions:

Your BIOS should have an area that enables AMD COOL AND QUIET. You will need to find that setting in the BIOS and enable it.

Also, some BIOS’s require ACPI 2.0 (not just ACPI, it must say ACPI 2.0) be enabled or COOL and QUIET will not work. You will need to go through the BIOS settings to see if this setting is available. Your motherboard manual should list all the settings and show you where they are located in the BIOS screens.

AMD COOL AND QUIET = ENABLED -or- (YES)
ACPI 2.0 SUPPORT = ENABLED -or- (YES)

Boot into Windows. Install the driver and reboot.

While the system is not under a load, your CPU Vcore and multiplier will automatically reduce, therefore the idle temp will drop by as much as 10c or more depending on how well your tower is set up for cooling.

I've had a look on Everest but can't find anywhere that tells me the temps of my GPU.  (GForce TI4600 128MB).

How are you guys checking this?

By the way I found 2 tweeks on here, the omega driver and the FS-GS website had a free download, I'm hugely impressed with my fps.  Found in Tweaking and overclocking.  FS-GS : http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tweek;action=display;num=1...

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1. GPU temps are checked by either Everest@home or other tool designed for the purpose. There are 3rd party and manufacture software available for checking GPU temps. ATI Tool will also control the fan speed on ATI cards.

2. FSautostart is a well known program. Although I did use it during my FS-GS service, I do not use it now. It is designed for older systems that do not run 2GB+ of memory and are not considered high end systems. It is NOT designed to shut down services 100% correctly but it will release memory and CPU cycles on systems that cannot handle all the background activity and the 3D application at the same time. The only thing I use FSAutostart for now is a diagnostic tool if I think someting in the background is causing trouble.

3. If omega drivers work for you, use them... I do not use them and when I ave tested them in the past I found my image quality was reduced in order to increase frames, which I do not like. I also found no performance gain over the factory drivers.

FS-GS will not tweak a system on anything but factory drivers.

now THATS funny!

CTJoyce, Modding and voiding warrenties since 2003


Mine would read: 

NickN, Modding and voiding warrenties since 1968

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Ummm, whatever came in the eMachines T6410....

Ill try and figure out what it is

EDIT! It is an ATi RS480

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CRUD!  My BIOS looks nothing like that, and I cant find a download for a new one.  I guess my PC will continue to run hot forever

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I wil try all those things...

I would have done home built but I didnt have the money (every component of my computer except the ram was purchased for me at one point or another)

A 45c CPU temp @ idle (assuming the motherboard monitoring software is correct) in my opinion is hot. Although it will run warm, an AMD64 should run much cooler than the Athlon of the past.

I would not run mine that hot @ idle or load.

It is however VERY possible his motherboard sensor is out of calibration by as much as 10c being an Emachine BIOS... I would not doubt it one bit.

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If you put it in that perspective.. I see your point. Yes, the CPU temp will be relative the ambient air temp and H2 of the environment.

Even so, with AMD C&Q and a high ambient I still see 45c at idle as high unless one is living in the Sahara  

EDIT: I still think his Emachine BIOS is off