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Post For OZZY72 From Si_Combat... Ref F4U Corsair. (Read 1730 times)

May 29^th, 2006 at 2:04pm

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Grin

I FOUND IT OZZY72 Grin

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I new I was right.... Not where I thought it was and it took me a while to find it but here ya go ...

A freeware file contained on the PC Pilot cover Disc Issue 36 Sep/Oct 2005...
Aeroplane Heaven F4U Corsair "Birdcage Edition"...

What do you need me to do now Ozzy...

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Reply #1 - May 29^th, 2006 at 2:12pm

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Simon I'm moving the post back now. We've never had this problem of a plane with disk on a magazine before.... I think we mods need to sort this out for next months contest! In the meanwhile I can't fault your entry and good luck Wink

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There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #2 - May 29^th, 2006 at 2:15pm

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Just my thoughts...
Well.. since you have to PAY for the magazine, it would be considered as payware..

Bar by Mees

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Reply #3 - May 29^th, 2006 at 2:20pm

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But the other argument could be that the disk comes "free" with the magazine. And it isn't the full AH Corsair just a special for this magazine.
Knotty but we mods will resolve the issue... that is why we get all the grey hairs 'cos of making these important executive decisions!

There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #4 - May 29^th, 2006 at 2:56pm

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Knotty but we mods will resolve the issue... that is why we get all the grey hairs 'cos of making these important executive decisions!

And it is why we make the "Big Bucks" too. Wink

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Reply #5 - May 29^th, 2006 at 5:29pm

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I haven't received much in the way of pay of late... in fact the fridge is looking rather devoid of alcohol! Pete more gin please Kiss

Kiss

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There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #6 - May 29^th, 2006 at 6:18pm

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Ozzy72... Thanks, that is good news Wink

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... and sorry if my post wasted some of your time...

Just glad to clear my name mate! Didn't fancy being classed as a cheat or sumthin'... Grin

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And just so other simmers know... Most of the freeware files included on the cover disks of PC Pilot contain most of the aircraft available for download at Simviation...

I'm back in the running... Yaaaayyyyyyyy Grin

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Regards from Belfast..

Simon (Si_Combat)

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Reply #7 - May 29^th, 2006 at 9:05pm

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Just my thoughts...
Well.. since you have to PAY for the magazine, it would be considered as payware..

Not necessarily.

Remember that PC Pilot Magazine also offers 100% freeware on its CDs - after having properly received permission from the appropriate desighners/builders. An excellent example of this is the collection of Rick Piper's Vickers prop airliners.

The difference, and this is a particularly interesting point, is that Rick's models are available as 100% free downloadable models from sites such as Simviation, etc. By placing them on a CD, the magazine is providing a service to many readers who many not necessarily be interested in downloading stuff (or very wary of doing such) and at the same time showcasing the freeware builders' offerings.

I will confess that many of the PC Pilot magazines that I purchase are based on the freeware downloads offered (yes, I am frequently too lazy to download the latest and greatest)...

The case of the AH Corsair, as offered in the CD, is a borderline situation. It is a commercial product, offered in a "shared medium", that is, you have to buy the magazine to get it, and which is intended to entice the user to purchase the full version as well as other products from the company.

Consider that you can get modelling programs in CDs from certain computer graphics magazines, some of which are full featured earlier versions (TrueSpace 4.3, for example), feature limited versions (Maya PLE), or even time-limited versions (3DSMAx8) of commercial prodcuts. That doesn't make them "free".

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Reply #8 - May 30^th, 2006 at 4:19am

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Not necessarily.

Remember that PC Pilot Magazine also offers 100% freeware on its CDs - after having properly received permission from the appropriate desighners/builders. An excellent example of this is the collection of Rick Piper's Vickers prop airliners.

The difference, and this is a particularly interesting point, is that Rick's models are available as 100% free downloadable models from sites such as Simviation, etc. By placing them on a CD, the magazine is providing a service to many readers who many not necessarily be interested in downloading stuff (or very wary of doing such) and at the same time showcasing the freeware builders' offerings.

I will confess that many of the PC Pilot magazines that I purchase are based on the freeware downloads offered (yes, I am frequently too lazy to download the latest and greatest)...

The case of the AH Corsair, as offered in the CD, is a borderline situation. It is a commercial product, offered in a "shared medium", that is, you have to buy the magazine to get it, and which is intended to entice the user to purchase the full version as well as other products from the company.

Consider that you can get modelling programs in CDs from certain computer graphics magazines, some of which are full featured earlier versions (TrueSpace 4.3, for example), feature limited versions (Maya PLE), or even time-limited versions (3DSMAx8) of commercial prodcuts. That doesn't make them "free".

True.. But you must remember, that you cant buy PCPilot in for example Denmark.. so that would mean that the UK members has an advantage over other members that arent from the UK.

Just my thought...

Cheers Theis

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Reply #9 - May 30^th, 2006 at 5:30am

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Ozzy72...
Not that I really want too, but to save any uneccessary nit-picking from over sensitive members and uneccessary hassle to the moderators, I will withdraw by entry from the May screenshot competition... You just say the word Ozzy and I will pull out. No hard feelings, and no disrespect Dude...

Uneccessary hassle just kills the fun of participating... Cry

Cry

Theis... Allow the Mods to do their job and quit interfering... I've put the ball into their court now so whatever they decide AGAIN you or I must accept...

Regards... Simon

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Reply #10 - May 30^th, 2006 at 6:31am

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The mods have reach a concensus of sorts. We'll allow your entry to stay in Wink

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However from next month there'll be a change that only planes you can download here at SimV will be allowed. We want to keep the playing field as level as possible

There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!

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Reply #11 - May 30^th, 2006 at 6:35am

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Great... Thanks Ozzy... and to the Board...

Simon

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Reply #12 - May 30^th, 2006 at 10:07am

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Great... Thanks Ozzy... and to the Board...

Aha.........

The Board of Moderators

I like that new title! Wink

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......................john

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Reply #13 - May 30^th, 2006 at 10:12am

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Reply #14 - May 30^th, 2006 at 10:19am

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Theis... Allow the Mods to do their job and quit interfering... I've put the ball into their court now so whatever they decide AGAIN you or I must accept...

You havn't been here much, I pressume.. Grin

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Reply #15 - May 30^th, 2006 at 1:07pm

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The mods have reach a concensus of sorts. We'll allow your entry to stay in Wink

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However from next month there'll be a change that only planes you can download here at SimV will be allowed. We want to keep the playing field as level as possible

But if you ban all non-SimV AIRCRAFT, does that also include any non-SimV SCENERY? If so, you'll be cutting the playing field down considerably, as there are so many well done scenery enhancements out there that I just never see on SimV.

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Reply #16 - May 30^th, 2006 at 1:14pm

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The screenshot contests showcase AIRPLANES. The rule will apply to airplanes.

Generally, scenery is either freeware or payware, and I haven't seen commercial scenery demos available for either download or in CDs. (not that there aren't /haven't been, just that *I* haven't seen them).

With tools available, almost anyone can jimmy up a few scenery objects to "fit the screenshot" ... that's not too bad - SO LONG AS ITS NOT COMMERCIAL SCENERY being passed on as freeware!

We will never satisfy everyone all the time, but we'd like to have as level a playing field as can reasonably be expected.

At this time, a freeware airplane is one that is available for download from Simviation.

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Reply #17 - May 30^th, 2006 at 2:08pm

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But if you ban all non-SimV AIRCRAFT, does that also include any non-SimV SCENERY? If so, you'll be cutting the playing field down considerably, as there are so many well done scenery enhancements out there that I just never see on SimV.

Yes it will. Maybe you can give an example but if a scenery designer is against Simviation we should most definitely not support them.

Actually I think that the word 'considerably' is highly overstated. Maybe you can give some examples?

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Reply #18 - May 30^th, 2006 at 3:56pm

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Actually I think that the word 'considerably' is highly overstated. Maybe you can give some examples?

Okay, you've got me there. I don't do scenery stuff as much as I do aircraft, but just as a general rule, not all sim sites will have the same addons. After all, if there are aircraft out there that are unavailable on SimV, logic would suggest that there are a few scenery addons that aren't available here as well, wouldn't it?

But I'll give one instance: the new Courchevelle scenery available. I'm fairly sure it isn't on SimV (correct me if I'm wrong) but that would eliminate it from the contest, unless you make an addendum that scenery is exempt from the rule.

I don't want to cause static, I was just bringing up a point that might cause some issues later on down the line, when next months contest happens and people are debating about whether or not a certain scenery enhancement comes from this site or not.

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Reply #19 - May 30^th, 2006 at 6:20pm

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lets have a seperate contest for those who get disks w/ ac in magazines Grin

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Reply #20 - May 30^th, 2006 at 7:05pm

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lets have a seperate contest for those who get disks w/ ac in magazines Grin

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Steady on boys... ... ... ... ... !!!

Would it have made a difference if someone had bought the magazine for me or if a mate let me borrow the disc after he had bought the magazine or maybe if I found the disc while walking to a shop somewhere...

What have I started... Embarrassed

Embarrassed

???

Mods... I humbally apologise... really I do...

Simon (Si_Combat)

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Reply #21 - May 31^st, 2006 at 8:29am

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New rule!
You can only enter the contest if you have had a drink at The Sunset Beach Bar in Maho Beach! 8)

Dave

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Reply #22 - May 31^st, 2006 at 9:17am

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Haaaaaaaaaa Cheesy

Cheesy

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That fairly limits the playing field... Haaaaaaaa Grin

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Simon (Si_Combat)

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Reply #23 - May 31^st, 2006 at 10:27am

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New rule!
You can only enter the contest if you have had a drink at The Sunset Beach Bar in Maho Beach! 8)

Dave

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