Search the archive:
Simviation Main Site
|
Site Search
|
Upload Images
Simviation Forum
›
Current Flight Simulator Series
›
Flight Simulator X
› Some (4) more pics
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
1
Some (4) more pics (Read 4633 times)
May 23
rd
, 2006 at 8:39pm
Airshow_lover
Offline
Colonel
I'm back........!
LaVergne, TN
Gender:
Posts: 1740
http://www.abacuspub.com/
click on the FSX article on the right, it has some photos form E3.
It looks like FSX has a target indicator...what this is good for is beyond me
C/SMSgt - Civil Air Patrol
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #1 -
May 23
rd
, 2006 at 9:36pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Flour Bombs?
Drop flour bombs on the floating targets after you replenish the bombs by landing on the aircraft carrier with your ultralight.
THIS
is one of the 50 "missions"?
Oh geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeee. This is sounding more like a GAME.
best,
...................john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #2 -
May 23
rd
, 2006 at 9:39pm
flyboy 28
Offline
Colonel
Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 13323
Quote:
Oh geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeee. This is sounding more like a GAME.
That's what I was worried about. Hopefully this will leave some simulation roots.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #3 -
May 23
rd
, 2006 at 11:39pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Don't jump to conclusions guys. This whole mission thing is nothing new for the FS series. Look at the "OLD" FS versions that existed before FS even worked with color monitors. There were some instances where you could "shoot" in the civilian sim [until M$ decided to take it out long ago]. So in essense, the whole "drop a bomb" thing is simply an old feature that was once considered ancient FS history. If you want more info on the old sims go to this link:
http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/index.htm
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #4 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 12:19am
Travis
Offline
Colonel
Cannot find REALITY.SYS.
Universe halted.
Dripping Springs, TX
Gender:
Posts: 4515
Well, from what I've been reading (not much) and seeing (even less) of the newest FS version, not much has been
taken away
, things have merely been
added
. I assume it means that if us older FSers are looking to just do what we've been doing (ie: flying around under bridges and scaring St. Maarteners) then we'll be allowed to do just that. But for those folks with a little less of an attention span (read: teenagers!) the missions are just a way to get someone a little more interested in flying around. After all, most people I know personally have some very strange ideas of what simming actually means.
And I do believe that "target indicator" is just a visual reference as a nav aid. Instead of tuning your nav radio and dialing in the freqs or whatnot, you just have that little dohicky up in the corner of the screen that tells you which direction to turn and when to do it. My most likely assesment is that it will be an optional thing, like crashes and such.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #5 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 12:50am
expat
Offline
Colonel
Deep behind enemy lines!
Gender:
Posts: 8499
Quote:
Flour Bombs?
Drop flour bombs on the floating targets after you replenish the bombs by landing on the aircraft carrier with your ultralight.
THIS
is one of the 50 "missions"?
Oh geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeee. This is sounding more like a GAME.
best,
...................john
How long before that is modified by someone into a weapon system for FSX military aircraft and we end up with CFX
Matt
«
Last Edit: May 24
th
, 2006 at 2:46am by expat
»
PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals.
B1 Boeing 737-800 and Dash8 Q-400
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #6 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 2:26am
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Quote:
How long before that is modified by someone into a weapon system for FSX military aircraft and we end up with CFX
Matt
Matt
Again, weapons in a civilian sim is an old idea in the FS franchise.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #7 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 8:36am
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
How long before that is modified by someone into a weapon system for FSX military aircraft and we end up with CFX
I give it a week. Two tops.
best,
......john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #8 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 8:46am
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
Well, from what I've been reading (not much) and seeing (even less) of the newest FS version, not much has been
taken away
, things have merely been
added
.
Yeah.... but instead of fixing the numerous problems that relate to realistic
flight
(it is after all supposed to be a
simulator
).... they've clearly taken time to add "
Flour Bombs"
of all things! Talk about lame. And landing an ultralight on a carrier as part of a "mission"!
If they fix the problem areas
and
add "Flour Bombs".... I've got no "issues". Hope that is the case. But if we get "Flour Bombs" but say the multiplayer interface is still as buggy as it is.... then in my boat... they missed the mark.
I wonder how much development time was devoted to stuff for the "hard core simmer"... and how much time was devoted to eye candy and attracting the "gamer market"? So far....all they have released about it as they build "marketing hype" has targeted the superficial stuff. As yet, no mention of improvements on the places that significantly touch on
simulation
.
Oh well.... guees we have to wait and see.
best,
.......john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #9 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 8:56am
Black ZR-1
Offline
Colonel
PLEASE UPLOAD ALL AVATARS!!
Chicago, IL USA
Gender:
Posts: 654
Can anyone say Pilot Wings?
«
Last Edit: May 24
th
, 2006 at 10:28am by Black ZR-1
»
i7 920
evga x58
6 gigs ddr3 1600 tripple channel
hd 5870 xfire
pcp@c silencer quad 750
3x dell u2410
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #10 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 9:31am
kipman725
Offline
Colonel
out of the shadows..
Bedroom
Gender:
Posts: 904
Not impresed by the flour bomb mission.. I thought they would be more realistic like actual stunts/races etc.
The grand canyon shot looked impresive though
5900xt/2800+/280GB/1GB PC3200/Cyborg Evo Force/ABIT NF7&&Gpu clock: 475mhz core, 800mhz mem&&CPU at: 12.5x175 = 2187.5 &&memory: 2.5, 3, 3, 8 Duel channel on &&Os: windows xp pro, ubuntu 5.10 breazy badger
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #11 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 10:39am
Ashar
Ex Member
Forza Lazio!!
Gender:
Quote:
Flour Bombs?
Drop flour bombs on the floating targets after you replenish the bombs by landing on the aircraft carrier with your ultralight.
THIS
is one of the 50 "missions"?
Oh geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeee. This is sounding more like a GAME.
best,
...................john
I just changed my mind about FSX...
&&
SS Lazio Website
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #12 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 11:04am
Crumbso
Offline
Colonel
The Sea Vixen - You aint'
never seen such a fox!!!
West Sussex, England
Gender:
Posts: 1794
Oh god forbid that someone should actually have fun in this
game
.... wait sorry Simulator.
Why don't we wait till it comes out, as an someone who works with making add ons this whole mission thing means event triggering, advanced scenery interaction, better scenery and why not have weapons?
As long as they don't stop the simulation (which they may or may not have improved) what's the harm in giving you somethig to do?
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #13 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 12:32pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
Why don't we wait till it comes out, as an someone who works with making add ons this whole mission thing means event triggering, advanced scenery interaction, better scenery.......
That is exactly the
frustrating
thing about the current series....starting with fs2004. It has to be "fixed" by add-ons.
Instead of spending prescious development time and dollars on making it a better
simulation
, they put time and money into stuff like "flour bombs". Heck, just fix the terrain mesh abnormalities and the airport towers and buildings in the middle of runways, for a good start. If they've added "flour bombs" and missed those kinds of
obvious
"bloopers", .... well......we'll see what they have done.
THEN
we have to wiat for the add-on developers to "fix" all the stuff that Microsoft didn't do. For many of us.... this means adding a lot of dollars of payware addons to get what is possible in the sim......with some well focused attention.
Stuff like dropping flour bombs on floating targets is a clear move toward "gaming". Economically, it makes sense for Microsoft to do this; the gaming market is
huge
. That doesn't say I have to
like
that direction.
None of us know what it
really
will be like until it comes out. But hopefully Microsoft is reading this stuff.... and can see what the publicity/marketing release of information is creating for an impression. And maybe there is some development time left to address some stuff that is
important
to the non-gamer types.
best,
....john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #14 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 12:36pm
Ashar
Ex Member
Forza Lazio!!
Gender:
Quote:
That is exactly the
frustrating
thing about the current series....starting with fs2004. It has to be "fixed" by add-ons.
Instead of spending prescious development time and dollars on making it a better
simulation
, they put time and money into stuff like "flour bombs". Heck, just fix the terrain mesh abnormalities and the airport towers and buildings in the middle of runways, for a good start. If they've added "flour bombs" and missed those kinds of
obvious
"bloopers", .... well......we'll see what they have done.
THEN
we have to wiat for the add-on developers to "fix" all the stuff that Microsoft didn't do. For many of us.... this means adding a lot of dollars of payware addons to get what is possible in the sim......with some well focused attention.
Stuff like dropping flour bombs on floating targets is a clear move toward "gaming". Economically, it makes sense for Microsoft to do this; the gaming market is
huge
. That doesn't say I have to
like
that direction.
None of us know what it
really
will be like until it comes out. But hopefully Microsoft is reading this stuff.... and can see what the publicity/marketing release of information is creating for an impression. And maybe there is some development time left to address some stuff that is
important
to the non-gamer types.
best,
....john
I wholeheartedly agree John...
&&
SS Lazio Website
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #15 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 12:46pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Has anyone bothered to listen to me when I said "don't jump to conclusions"?
Quote:
Yeah.... but instead of fixing the numerous problems that relate to realistic flight (it is after all supposed to be a simulator).... they've clearly taken time to add "Flour Bombs" of all things! Talk about lame. And landing an ultralight on a carrier as part of a "mission"!
The last time I checked, a lot of people kept asking for missions but very few people stated what "kind" of missions. And about the "instead of fixing" part: Are you saying that based on just an assumption or is that a fact? If that's a fact then show me a website where M$ clearly states that they're not "fixing things".
Quote:
Oh geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeee. This is sounding more like a GAME.
Hey, Orbiter has scenarios that resemble missions and nobody has called it a "game" because of that. In that case, FSX is not sounding like a "game" to me.
Quote:
I thought they would be more realistic like actual stunts/races etc.
Uh, have you even bothered to notice the Red Bull races in the videos? If not, get some glasses and watch them again.
Quote:
How long before that is modified by someone into a weapon system for FSX military aircraft and we end up with CFX
Excuse me but look at X-Plane. It fires off missiles and drops bombs that explode on impact and yet the majority of X-Plane fans don't seem to be bothered by it. In fact, they seem to like it. This is probably why M$ is adding weapons so as to catch up with X-Plane.
Pardon me for acting like this but I have noticed that everyone here is simply starting to lose touch with reality. In the past, we demanded to have missions in FS long before FSX was even mentioned by M$ and now look at us. We're complaining about it. Come on, what the heck is wrong with all of you guys? Time for the daily injections I guess.
And also, has anyone listened to me when I said that "weapons" are an old idea in the FS franchise that is most likely being brought back rather than "added"?
Come on guys, be realistic over here. You're jumping the gun one too many times. Again, are you forgetting what we have demanded in the past?
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #16 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 1:03pm
expat
Offline
Colonel
Deep behind enemy lines!
Gender:
Posts: 8499
Quote:
And also, has anyone listened to me when I said that "weapons" are an old idea in the FS franchise that is most likely being brought back rather than "added"?
For weapons to be brought back they have to be present in the first place, Weapons have been CFS, not FS.
Matt
PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals.
B1 Boeing 737-800 and Dash8 Q-400
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #17 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 1:30pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Quote:
For weapons to be brought back they have to be present in the first place, Weapons have been CFS, not FS.
Matt
http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/downloads.htm
Take a look. Even though weapons in FS are ancient FS history it doesn't change the fact that the feature was there in the beginning. And notice that this feature existed in FS long before CFS even existed.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #18 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 2:27pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
This is probably why M$ is adding weapons so as to catch up with X-Plane.
Katahu,
You missed quoting my comments about how we will not know what it is until it is out.
And speculating on such stuff is human.
BTW........ where did you see
weapons
being added? What I saw was
flour bombs
.
Flour bombs are not weapons. (Thinking of Crocodile Dundee in the movie now........ "Nawh.......
this
is a knife"!)
Personally....for my OWN "privacy of my own home" use I have no "problem" with them adding weapons into the sim and merging the function of the two series. Personally, I will just not be using them.
However, the place I see a real potential issue with that concept is in multiplayer.
So there you are cruising along with a group of friends on your overseas passenger flight (using FSPassengfers....or
hopefully
the built in equivalent "missions")....... and some idiot logs on to the server and proceeds to AMRAM you sorry butts out of the sky from a range that doesn't even let you have the courtesy of knowing what happened.
As to the adding weapons relative to the civilian sim aspect........ well............. if they take away development time from making the
flight simulation
portion of things better so that they can devote time and resources to add weapons and damage..... well then I really would not appreciate that very much.
If the default sim is done to the level of what it can be with all the payware I have added.....
AND
they've added weapons....... so be it.
best,
........................john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #19 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 2:39pm
expat
Offline
Colonel
Deep behind enemy lines!
Gender:
Posts: 8499
Quote:
http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/downloads.htm
Take a look. Even though weapons in FS are ancient FS history it doesn't change the fact that the feature was there in the beginning. And notice that this feature existed in FS long before CFS even existed.
Humble pie, humble pie
Matt
PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals.
B1 Boeing 737-800 and Dash8 Q-400
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #20 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 4:41pm
cavity
Offline
Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 388
I am going to agree with John on this one. I have always interpreted this sim to be a commercial/private aviation sim. Why? No weapons, no military aircraft, and such. Having missions is fine, but those missions should relate to REAL aviation. When is the last time any of us have flown an ultralight and dropped flour bombs on targets? The mission could be flying a water tanker and dropping it on fires, and in my opinion would be much more realistic. I know I dont have to fly the missions if I dont like them, I just feel that it is watering down the sim. MS could release a game with tons of fun things to do like drop flour bombs and other things, without worrying about the scenery and airline traffic etc. I just feel it shouldnt be part of this sim. Focus on the real issues:stability, framerates, flight dynamics, weather, and ATC. Once those are addressed, release an add-on with all the greatest missions one can think of, perhaps flying to space in a modified Cessna that uses flour for fuel. Todd
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #21 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 5:16pm
Overspeed
Offline
Colonel
I'm overspeed while taxiing
Posts: 510
Is this stuff a selling point? It says flight simulator, and i personally have not seen people drop flour bombs from autogyros, or try to land autogyros on carriers...
its probably fun, but come on... it is a simulator
&&
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #22 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 5:53pm
F-16Viper
Offline
Colonel
Uno Ab Alto
Gender:
Posts: 1067
hey, whats wrong with flour bombs? when you get board of crusing around, turn around and white-wash the houses
&&&&Civil Air Patrol Member since July 2005&&C/CMSgt
www.cap.gov
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #23 -
May 24
th
, 2006 at 9:18pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Quote:
hey, whats wrong with flour bombs? when you get board of crusing around, turn around and white-wash the houses
Anger Management 101
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #24 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 2:48am
PisTon
Ex Member
Hey thanks for the link
Looks great.
I am extremly impressed with the red bull airraces too!
Quote:
None of us know what it
really
will be like until it comes out.
Exactly, so how do you know they havn't fixed them bugs?
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #25 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 5:35pm
hypostomus2000
Offline
Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 31
Erm, like it or not, FS *is* a game, despite the name. Hardcore simmers and real life pilots may use and really want it to be as real as it gets, but the vast majority of buyers, such as myself, just want to trundle about the world aimlessly, personally I use it as a relaxation aid. If you are a hardcare simmmer or real life pilot that's fine, but if Microsoft only catered to your needs there wouldn't be a big enough market and FS would be canned. So you have to accept more development time spent on graphics and missions. You may not use them but they're necessary to pull in more punters. And in the meantime I'll be able to fly over the Greek islands just as I've always done. Peace.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #26 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 6:17pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Why do people always say "most people see it as a game" as if it was a fact without backing up such a claim such with at least a legitimate article or such? It annoys me when people do that.
Quote:
Katahu,
You missed quoting my comments about how we will not know what it is until it is out.
Notice that my comment says
Quote:
This is
probably*
why M$ is adding weapons so as to catch up with X-Plane.
*Keyword: Probably. Therefore, it is just a theory.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #27 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 9:02pm
Crumbso
Offline
Colonel
The Sea Vixen - You aint'
never seen such a fox!!!
West Sussex, England
Gender:
Posts: 1794
It's equally annoying when people say the opposite without backing it up with such evidence.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #28 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 9:42pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
If you are a hardcare simmmer or real life pilot that's fine, but if Microsoft only catered to your needs there wouldn't be a big enough market and FS would be canned. So you have to accept more development time spent on graphics and missions.
No we don't really
have
to accept them. We can simply move over to X-Plane, which already has far better flight dynamics. And if Miscorsoft loses the more serious simming folks... that too would significantly affect their sales. If a large population moved to X-Plane, they then would have the financial wherwithall and user base to greatly expand
their
impact on the simming field. And theereby steal more of Microsoft's flight simming market share.
You are likely very correct saying that the vast majority of the users are "casual" ones...... I have said that myself many, MANY times on these forums. And what Microsoft is doing in that regard is clearly a financial and market based decision that, as a money making enterprise, is a very sound one.
But that does not leave us "tied" to Microsoft or force us to like it.
And I think the more "serious simmers" are the ones that go out of their way to provide all of the freeware add-ons that make the "casual users" flight sim life so very much richer.
If that "base" moves to X-Plane.... Microsoft stands to lose a lot, I think.
Hopefully, they will remember that fact....and give us "serious simmers" a lot more than "flour bombs" and window dressing in the new version. And if we keep up the "verbal pressure" on the various forums.... there is still time for them to possibly address some of the issues that are near and dear to OUR hearts too.
I think it is long standing fear of the serious simmers that the Flight Sim franchise will cave in to the market driven money-making aspects of the massive "gaming" crowd.... and turn what was a very special piece of software into just another fast-twitch muscle, video arcade hit. For a while a lot of people were terrified that the "X" in the title meant the new version was going to be X-Box based. That over-reaction showed the level of anxiety there is on this subject.
We can only hope when the new version is in our hands.... it will offer a LOT more than eye candy and contrived stuff like the flour bombing scenario.
God... that "flour bombing" thing is, to me at least,
so
incredibly lame that I almost wonder if the mention of it was some sort of sick joke by the folks that posted it, and it isn't really part of the new sim. "
Say it ain't so!
"
best,
......................john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #29 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 10:05pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Oh well. Looks like I'm outnumbered and outflanked. Going to step away from this thread for now. Good points though.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #30 -
May 25
th
, 2006 at 10:17pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
And about the "instead of fixing" part: Are you saying that based on just an assumption or is that a fact? If that's a fact then show me a website where M$ clearly states that they're not "fixing things".
Katahu,
No........ it is not based on direct knowledge.... EXCEPT from what Microsoft has
chosen
to tell us about the new sim is not that they have improved flight dynamics, or more realistic AI, or ATC functionality... or stuff like that but that thay have added stuff like flour bombing "missions", and animals in the wild, and air races, and other such stuff.
Reading between the lines is often a valid exercise.
I'm waiting now for the revalation that they have ALSO improved the stuff the matters to the more serious simmer. Hopefully it will be forthcomeing soon.
best,
......john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #31 -
May 26
th
, 2006 at 1:46pm
hypostomus2000
Offline
Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 31
quote -No we don't really have to accept them. We can simply move over to X-Plane, which already has far better flight dynamics. And if Miscorsoft loses the more serious simming folks... that too would significantly affect their sales. If a large population moved to X-Plane, they then would have the financial wherwithall and user base to greatly expand their impact on the simming field. And theereby steal more of Microsoft's flight simming market share. -unquote
OK, if you're that down on FS why don't you change to X-Plane? I'm not having a go here you understand, I'm just interested. As for the how do you justify your remark about the number of serious simmers vs. dilettantes, how many people can afford a computer vs. how many people can afford a Cessna and it's running costs? The vast majority of buyers just want to pootle around their favourite bits of world, they don't care about how well it simulates an arcane bit of hardware they've probably never heard of. I accept I'm not preaching to the converted here and that forums like this are going to be populated by hardcore simmers who want that arcane bit of hardware simulated but it really is a game despite what you'd like to believe. It's not a crime to admit you're playing a game you know. Thinking about it, it's an RPG, you're just not off slaying monsters in D&D land.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #32 -
May 26
th
, 2006 at 10:58pm
justplanecrazy
Offline
Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 34
Well i think that missions are a great thing. Even Real world commercal simulators have missions weather its from nailing an ils approch to droping GPS guied bombs from the B-2 (which pilots learn to fly from the simulator before ever seeing the real cockpit). As far as droping flower bombs well that might be a little benith me. Then again there are some people whos cars i would love to plaster with bags of flowers from 500 feet.
not that i would ever do that Mr FAA. Im ok with the missions cause some times i want to have fun flying and i dont have the time for a four hour flight, and a few t&G's is all i get. maybe M$ will bring back the crop duster mission like in M$Fs 4.0 that would rock Die you low life insects die.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #33 -
May 29
th
, 2006 at 2:07am
an-225
Ex Member
Oh great, flower bombs!
Well, at least it allows you to dive bomb Bill Gates' house!
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #34 -
Jun 8
th
, 2006 at 2:48pm
JBaymore
Offline
Global Moderator
Under the curse of the
hombuilt cockpit!
Gender:
Posts: 10261
Quote:
I'm waiting now for the revalation that they have ALSO improved the stuff the matters to the more serious simmer. Hopefully it will be forthcomeing soon.
And... it looks like they are finally releasing info now that seems to point toward additions/ fixes that directly relate to the "sim" history of the product... so this is GREAT news!
Gotta keep putting those pennies in the jar for the new hardware!
best,
...................john
Intel i7 960 quad 3.2G LGA 1366, Asus P6X58D Premium, 750W Corsair, 6 gig 1600 DDR3, Spinpoint 1TB 7200 HD, Caviar 500G 7200 HD, GTX275 1280M, Logitec Z640, Win7 Pro 64b, CH Products yoke, pedals + throttle quad, simpit
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #35 -
Jun 8
th
, 2006 at 5:03pm
vololiberista
Offline
Colonel
Vieni in Italia
Posts: 1042
Quote:
Oh great, flower bombs!
Well, at least it allows you to dive bomb Bill Gates' house!
He only has ONE house? If they painted targets on the roofs of all his houses I would use something somewhat more powerful than flour LOL
50 "missions" seems quite a lot and one wonders if there is enough room left for the sim proper. Flying birds and moving traffic are not the MOST important improvements and I'm certain that we will have to wait until addons put things right. As for frame rates they will be crap unless one uses the the most expensive and up to date systems.
Why do so many people still use FS98 etc etc because only on today's pc's can they get decent frame rates.
Vololiberista
Andiamo in Italia&&
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #36 -
Jun 8
th
, 2006 at 6:50pm
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
Actually, 50 missions is not a lot to the average gamer. In fact 50 missions appear to be the norm in most games. Frankly, I prefer to have some missions because I do get bored of just flying around after a while.
And don't foget, Bill Gates is not the one who makes the FS series. It's the guys at M$ Game Studios who do and they are the one who decide what to do with the game. Bill is just there to collect money. In fact, Bill never even created the first sim. According to Flight Sim History* it was Bruce Artwick who first wrote it and sold it.
*The Flight Sim History website is here:
http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/start.htm
So, are you guys sure that Bill determines what FS is and is not going to be?
Also, Bill is only a CEO. The people who are most likely in charge are the Board of Directors. See here for definitions.
http://cobrands.business.findlaw.com/banking_financing/source/business_events/be...
«
Last Edit: Jun 9
th
, 2006 at 2:49am by Katahu
»
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #37 -
Jun 9
th
, 2006 at 1:50am
vololiberista
Offline
Colonel
Vieni in Italia
Posts: 1042
Bill is in charge of a company that knowingly releases software with hundreds (or in the case of XP tens of thousands of bugs) Can you imagine being sold a car with one wheel missing, having to search yourself to replace it!! It is a company that insists on trying to monopolise the entire computer industry. Fortunately Europe won't allow his dirty tricks any more!!
Bombing targets with flower or even real weapons doesn't interest me at all. I might try a handful of the missions in the new programme (I mean game sorry!!) I'm a real pilot and my interest is in comparing the reality of flying with a sim. I use the sim to practise cockpit drills.
In many respects FS9 is quite weak in comparison to some other sims. The scenery in FlyII is as good, the mountains are stunning and the cockpits are way way ahead of anything in FS9. Navigation and flight planning are properly displayed and is at one's fingertips. In fact the only major impprovement of FS9 in comparison is the clouds!!!!!
I will wait until FSX is properly reviewed and add ons have been written to fix the bugs and improve the realism.
I don't intend to rush out and spend a lot of money on something that as far as i have seen so far is only a marginal improvement (we have only seen the scenery) on FS9.
Morning gripe over
Vololiberista
Andiamo in Italia&&
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #38 -
Jun 9
th
, 2006 at 2:44am
Katahu
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 6920
It's good for the health for someone to release all that anger.
Just remember that it's against the Anti-Trust law for any company [big or small] to monopolize in the US. So in essence, Bill is holding back his greed to avoid being hanged by Uncle Sam.
Here is a link so that you can better understand the Anti-Trust Law:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Antitrust
[offtopic] Well, at least we know for sure that at least "one" law in the US is actually working.
[/offtopic]
Also, Bill is only a CEO. The people who are most likely in charge are the Board of Directors. See here for definitions.
http://cobrands.business.findlaw.com/banking_financing/source/business_events/be...
Note: Click on "international" located at the bottom of the page.
Back to top
IP Logged
Pages:
1
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
« Home
‹ Board
Top of this page
Forum Jump »
Home
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
Current Flight Simulator Series
- Flight Simulator X ««
- FS 2004 - A Century of Flight
- Adding Aircraft Traffic (AI) & Gates
- Flight School
- Flightgear
- MS Flight
Graphic Gallery
- Simviation Screenshots Showcase
- Screenshot Contest
- Edited Screenshots
- Photos & Cameras
- Payware Screenshot Showcase
- Studio V Screenshot Workshop
- Video
- The Cage
Design Forums
- Aircraft & 3D Design
- Scenery & Panel Design
- Aircraft Repainting
- Designer Feedback
General
- General Discussion
- Humour
- Music, Arts & Entertainment
- Sport
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
- Hardware
- Tweaking & Overclocking
- Computer Games & Software
- HomeBuild Cockpits
Addons Most Wanted
- Aircraft Wanted
- Other Add-ons Wanted
Real World
- Real Aviation
- Specific Aircraft Types
- Autos
- History
On-line Interactive Flying
- Virtual Airlines Events & Messages
- Multiplayer
Simviation Site
- Simviation News & Info
- Suggestions for these forums
- Site Questions & Feedback
- Site Problems & Broken Links
Combat Flight Simulators
- Combat Flight Simulator 3
- Combat Flight Simulator 2
- Combat Flight Simulator
- CFS Development
- IL-2 Sturmovik
Other Websites
- Your Site
- Other Sites
Payware
- Payware
Old Flight Simulator Series
- FS 2002
- FS 2000
- Flight Simulator 98
Simviation Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.5 AE
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.