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For weapons to be brought back they have to be present in the first place, Weapons have been CFS, not FS.

Matt

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Katahu,

You missed quoting my comments about how we will not know what it is until it is out.    And speculating on such stuff is human.

BTW........ where did you see weapons being added?  What I saw was flour bombs.    Flour bombs are not weapons.  (Thinking of Crocodile Dundee in the movie now........ "Nawh....... this is a knife"!)

Personally....for my OWN "privacy of my own home" use I have no "problem" with them adding weapons into the sim and merging the function of the two series.  Personally, I will just not be using them.

However, the place I see a real potential issue with that concept is in multiplayer.

So there you are cruising along with a group of friends on your overseas passenger flight (using FSPassengfers....or hopefully the built in equivalent "missions")....... and some idiot logs on to the server and proceeds to AMRAM you sorry butts out of the sky from a range that doesn't even let you have the courtesy of knowing what happened.  

As to the adding weapons relative to the civilian sim aspect........ well............. if they take away development time from making the flight simulation portion of things better so that they can devote time and resources to add weapons and damage..... well then I really would not appreciate that very much.

If the default sim is done to the level of what it can be with all the payware I have added.....AND they've added weapons....... so be it.

best,

........................john

I am going to agree with John on this one.  I have always interpreted this sim to be a commercial/private aviation sim.  Why?  No weapons, no military aircraft, and such.  Having missions is fine, but those missions should relate to REAL aviation.  When is the last time any of us have flown an ultralight and dropped flour bombs on targets?  The mission could be flying a water tanker and dropping it on fires, and in my opinion would be much more realistic.  I know I dont have to fly the missions if I dont like them, I just feel that it is watering down the sim.  MS could release a game with tons of fun things to do like drop flour bombs and other things, without worrying about the scenery and airline traffic etc.  I just feel it shouldnt be part of this sim.  Focus on the real issues:stability, framerates, flight dynamics, weather, and ATC.  Once those are addressed, release an add-on with all the greatest missions one can think of, perhaps flying to space in a modified Cessna that uses flour for fuel.  Todd

hey, whats wrong with flour bombs? when you get board of crusing around, turn around and white-wash the houses

Hey thanks for the link Looks great.

I am extremly impressed with the red bull airraces too!
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Exactly, so how do you know they havn't fixed them bugs?

Why do people always say "most people see it as a game" as if it was a fact without backing up such a claim such with at least a legitimate article or such? It annoys me when people do that.

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*Keyword: Probably. Therefore, it is just a theory.

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No we don't really have to accept them.  We can simply move over to X-Plane, which already has far better flight dynamics.  And if Miscorsoft loses the more serious simming folks... that too would significantly affect their sales.   If a large population moved to X-Plane, they then would have the financial wherwithall and user base to greatly expand their impact on the simming field.  And theereby steal more of Microsoft's flight simming market share.

You are likely very correct saying that the vast majority of the users are "casual" ones...... I have said that myself many, MANY times on these forums.  And what Microsoft is doing in that regard is clearly a financial and market based decision that, as a money making enterprise, is a very sound one. 

But that does not leave us "tied" to Microsoft or force us to like it.    And I think the more "serious simmers" are the ones that go out of their way to provide all of the freeware add-ons that make the "casual users" flight sim life so very much richer. 

If that "base" moves to X-Plane.... Microsoft stands to lose a lot, I think.

Hopefully, they will remember that fact....and give us "serious simmers" a lot more than "flour bombs" and window dressing in the new version.  And if we keep up the "verbal pressure" on the various forums.... there is still time for them to possibly address some of the issues that are near and dear to OUR hearts too.

I think it is long standing fear of the serious simmers that the Flight Sim franchise will cave in to the market driven money-making aspects of the massive "gaming" crowd.... and turn what was a very special piece of software into just another fast-twitch muscle, video arcade hit.  For a while a lot of people were terrified that the "X" in the title meant the new version was going to be X-Box based.  That over-reaction showed the level of anxiety there is on this subject.

We can only hope when the new version is in our hands.... it will offer a LOT more than eye candy and contrived stuff like the flour bombing scenario. 


God... that "flour bombing" thing is, to me at least, so incredibly lame that I almost wonder if the mention of it was some sort of sick joke by the folks that posted it, and it isn't really part of the new sim.  "Say it ain't so!"


best,

......................john