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May 22^nd, 2006 at 10:03am

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Im working on this now,please does anybody has a closer or manual operation to make the VC the most similar posible to the reality?BTW if anybody interest it can you say the name of this expensive plane? Wink

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Reply #1 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 10:22am

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Just a suggestion, but you need some work on the belly there. Other than that, looks nice. Keep it up.

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Reply #2 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 10:34am

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No Katahu Im in from 1 to 10 ..,Im in 2 stage Long long road to walk to make and remake things... this is bearly a like a test shot

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Reply #3 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 11:19am

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Alrot,

Hopefully you can find a real world pilot of one who can get you info.

Hate to mention THIS option but........

You can often (ahem) buy operational manuals for such contemporary aircraft. They are often available in real world pilot shops....which you can find at some local GA airports and online.

They aren't cheap though for such planes. I'd guess that something like the Citation X would be in the $150 range or so. I am currently eyeing the one for the BAe 146-200.....which I fly all the time and my simpit is loosely modeled after.

best,

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Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 12:44pm

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Alrot,

$150

Oh My God!I can't even affors a better CPU Grin

, I just need the panel closer view,I download all available real cockpit photos ,and I can't see the buttoms function,Like autopilot ,GPS/NAV,etc,etc,etc,,I can't compite with Eaglesoft (Fr.Bill Laeming)he's an expert,hes got a payware company I hope he doesn't get upset with me,when the briefing reach to him,Im Just making a my 2nd proyect,

Im still a amateur,.Im student of Milton Shupe wich we have the pleasure of his present here among us , for his teaching and share secrets that not easyly no one do that.he has help many of us without any other interest than teach, great man, great friend,

I like this plane as many fellows around here....I just need Embarrassed

this
a closer view

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Reply #5 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 2:33pm

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Nice one Alrot ! That´s one I wanted ! Looks very promising...

Altavista image search gives some pics of the instruments in closer, look here... hope it helps...

A bit cheaper is this at ebay, still 42$, and I don´t know how good it is...

All in all, with a lot of googling there should be lots of info....

For example Cessna itself has a picture gallery for the Citation X here

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Reply #6 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 4:29pm

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Hey! i'm a pilot i fly some citation x's but i could get a pic because my camera was ded i although got this picture off google and seems the same of the ones i fly here it is

Police think they can see me lean&&I'm tint so it ain't easy to be seen&&When you see me ride by they can see the glean&&And my shine on the deck and the TV screen&&Ride with a new chick, she like hold up&&Next to the playstation controller is a full clip and my pistola&&Turn a jacker into a coma

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Reply #7 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 5:56pm

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Alrot,

Hopefully you can find a real world pilot of one who can get you info.

Hate to mention THIS option but........

You can often (ahem) buy operational manuals for such contemporary aircraft. They are often available in real world pilot shops....which you can find at some local GA airports and online.

They aren't cheap though for such planes. I'd guess that something like the Citation X would be in the $150 range or so. I am currently eyeing the one for the BAe 146-200.....which I fly all the time and my simpit is loosely modeled after.

best,

.....................john

Any idea where I could find one for a DC-3? I think it would be a great thing to have (not really for operating, just a collectors item)

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Reply #8 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 6:56pm

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Any idea where I could find one for a DC-3? I think it would be a great thing to have (not really for operating, just a collectors item)

http://www.esscoaircraft.com/Douglas_C_47_HC_47_C_117_Series_s/9029.htm

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Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 8:44pm

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Felix beat me to it Wink

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Been eyeing the BAe 146-200 one from them at $62.00. Can't make up my mind.... it is a lot of money.

best,

.............john

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Reply #10 - May 22^nd, 2006 at 10:25pm

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Sweet! Thanks Felix! Ive got to get some of those manuals!

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Reply #11 - May 24^th, 2006 at 12:22pm

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Looking great!

Think Global. It's the world we live in.

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Reply #12 - May 25^th, 2006 at 10:52am

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Hey! i'm a pilot i fly some citation x's but i could get a pic because my camera was ded i although got this picture off google and seems the same of the ones i fly here it is

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What's the manufacturer of the FMS in the Citation X ???
Is it the Collins FMS-3000 (used in the CJ3) or is it Honeywell GNSX FMS, which is featured in the Bravo's.
Or maybe it's none of the above?
The avionics indeed looks like something from Honeywell...

Always wondered (bizjets avionics are always cutting edge), great to have a real Citation X driver onboard

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Reply #13 - May 25^th, 2006 at 11:20am

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One caveat - while it may not necessarily apply in all cases, one has to be careful of what one is modelling. A particular airplane may be "stock" or it may have a customized set of instrumentation particular to that airplane.

Example - typically Gulfstream I (G-159) airplanes, when built, had the then-normal-for-the-time analog "steam" gauges. I know of one that ended up with a state of the art glass cockpit before it was retired.

Another "oldie" some Basler BT-67s (turboprop conversion + of the C-47) have full modern glass instrumentation.

A modeller, without full and direct access to the specific plane, will create it using a "best guess" philosophy, which most probably will differ from "stock" or from a specific airplane. (All in all, I still am in awe of those that create the whole thing.....)

Felix/FFDS

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Reply #14 - May 25^th, 2006 at 6:48pm

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One caveat - while it may not necessarily apply in all cases, one has to be careful of what one is modelling. A particular airplane may be "stock" or it may have a customized set of instrumentation particular to that airplane.

Example - typically Gulfstream I (G-159) airplanes, when built, had the then-normal-for-the-time analog "steam" gauges. I know of one that ended up with a state of the art glass cockpit before it was retired.

Another "oldie" some Basler BT-67s (turboprop conversion + of the C-47) have full modern glass instrumentation.

A modeller, without full and direct access to the specific plane, will create it using a "best guess" philosophy, which most probably will differ from "stock" or from a specific airplane. (All in all, I still am in awe of those that create the whole thing.....)

WHAT?! Since when to Baslers have full glass? They use modern analogue gauges. Show me proof, I really dont believe that the Basler has glass (if it does, im never flying a basler turbo)

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