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May 14
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, 2006 at 9:31pm
The Ruptured Duck
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Is English standard ATC talk everywhere?
If not, explain how ATC systems work in places like Europe where languages shift between countries
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May 14
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Is English standard ATC talk everywhere?
Yup. It's not always used 100% of the time in certain countries, but it is the official language.
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May 14
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French and spain are notorious for speaking their native languages, which is really not a crime.
In europe it's standard for all students to take their radio certificate in two languages.
I did my radio test in both swedish and english, always good to master two languages, but I dont need english to fly in Sweden. If I fly to Germany however, I can choose to communicate with them in either English
or
german.
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May 15
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Yup. It's not always used 100% of the time in certain countries, but it is the official language.
Nice politicaly correct answer
Go on, say it...........
France!
Matt
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May 15
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It's a funny old do...
But although I am an Englishman, I find that American Air Traffic Controllers are the easiest to understand when listening to them live on the air...
...!
...it's the way they speak...
...!
LOL...!
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May 15
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, 2006 at 12:16pm
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It's a funny old do...
But although I am an Englishman, I find that American Air Traffic Controllers are the easiest to understand when listening to them live on the air...
...!
...it's the way they speak...
...!
LOL...!
http://atcmonitor.com/
Cheers ...!
Paul... 8)...!
And Sir, they are also very polite.
Matt
PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals.
B1 Boeing 737-800 and Dash8 Q-400
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May 15
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It should be english for everyone, however the frenchies have a bad habit of poopooing all over that rule..
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May 15
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, 2006 at 12:38pm
The Ruptured Duck
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And Sir, they are also very polite.
Matt
POLITE?
Where do you fly?
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May 15
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C
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French and spain are notorious for speaking their native languages, which is really not a crime.
When it involves people being killed, it could well be a crime of negligence (thinking British Shorts 360(?) co pilot killed at Paris CDG by an aircraft which had had its clearance in French)
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May 15
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beefhole
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Nice politicaly correct answer
Go on, say it...........
France!
Matt
I've learned to be very subtle... you caught me
I've also heard it's literally dangerous to fly to certain parts of China (possibly Asia in general, but I've only heard China) without a native Chinese speaker on board.
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May 15
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, 2006 at 3:50pm
Ivan
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For the Airline stuff:
Official ATC languages are English, Russian and maybe French.
For flights over Russia you are required to have a russian speaking crewmember in the cockpit.
In France and Canada, if the ATC guy thinks that your french is good enough, they will try French first, and switch to english when there are difficulties.
In holland, if the ATC guy knows he has a Dutch speaking pilot, he will often do the 'goodbye' stuff in Dutch
General Aviation is usually done in the local language if there are no foreign aircraft hanging around.
Russian planes:
IL-76 (all standard length ones)
,
Tu-154 and Il-62
,
Tu-134
and
An-24RV
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May 15
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, 2006 at 5:33pm
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In holland, if the ATC guy knows he has a Dutch speaking pilot, he will often do the 'goodbye' stuff in Dutch
As far as I'm aware it's regarded as
common courtesy
to greet the controller in their mother tongue regardless. For example on entering French airspace from the UK, I would expect my initial contact with the ATC agency to start "Bonjour..."
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May 15
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Correct Charlie, you're on a roll!
8)
(that was an attempt to be funny, and not sarcastic)
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May 16
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expat
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POLITE?
Where do you fly?
Not in your Readneak of the woods then.
Matt
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People Eating Tasty Animals.
B1 Boeing 737-800 and Dash8 Q-400
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May 16
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The Ruptured Duck
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Not in your Readneak of the woods then.
Matt
LOL
Actually, the redneak FSS guys in Oklahoma are more friendlier than anyone in Kansas
"If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading, or do things worth the writing" -Ben Franklin&&&&"Man must rise above the Earth to the top of the atmosphere and beyond, for only thus will he fully understand the world in which he lives." - Socrates&&&&" Flying is a religion. A religion that asymilates all who get a taste of it." - Me&&&&"Make the most out of yourself, for that is all there is of you"- Ralf Waldo Emerson&&
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