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Reply #15 - May 14th, 2006 at 7:08pm

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I've actually seen stuff like that happen in warm weather, or old asphalt that may have had a crack in it where water seeped through and eroded everything away beneath it, and it collapsed, but it you put something on the asphalt before it collapsed and was heavy enough, it would have just bent down like it did here.

Awesome.

Doesn't change the fact that it looks like a classic edit.  Does that mean its one? No.  But at a glance it sure does look like one.
 
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Reply #16 - May 14th, 2006 at 10:08pm

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Super-dooper.

Lots of things look like edits, it would be no fun if we believed everything was fake.  I was just saying there's no reason to be so pessimistic about it, just enjoy it, so cheer up an have a cookie all you nay-sayers. Wink
 

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Reply #17 - May 14th, 2006 at 11:33pm

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Fake.

There is no evidence of the asphalt changing- its smooth all the way around

The airport doesn't look big enough to land a Gulfstream in.
 

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Reply #18 - May 14th, 2006 at 11:37pm

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Heres pics from A liners.net
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N222LX&distinct_entry=tru...

could they have used one of these?
 

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Reply #19 - May 15th, 2006 at 12:49pm

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The airport doesn't look big enough to land a Gulfstream in.


How on earth can you see how big the airfield is in those photos!
 
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Reply #20 - May 15th, 2006 at 12:52pm

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Funniest thing is most of the ones you guys call out to be fake turn out not to be. You've got to trust what you see at some point.
 
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Reply #21 - May 15th, 2006 at 3:21pm

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Funniest thing is most of the ones you guys call out to be fake turn out not to be. You've got to trust what you see at some point.

Fine, that settles it.

LBJ killed Kennedy.

Do you see the ridiculousness of that statement?  Why shouldn't we be skeptical when there's legitimate reason to be so? (like, I dunno, here for example)
 
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Reply #22 - May 15th, 2006 at 6:49pm

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Whatever man Roll Eyes

I'm just saying 9 times out of ten what you see is what you get and the simplest explanation is usually the right one. Remember that sukhoi picture? How many people here were "sure" it was a fake?

Enjoy the pic and save your debating skills for something more important.
 
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Reply #23 - May 15th, 2006 at 7:10pm

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Guys, calm down. No need to argue over this.

Either way it looks kinda goofy Smiley
 
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Reply #24 - May 15th, 2006 at 7:31pm

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Enjoy the pic and save your debating skills for something more important.

Why?  They are infinitely replenish-able Grin
 
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Reply #25 - May 15th, 2006 at 7:34pm

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It's all calm over here and I believe with beefhole too so no worries there. Smiley
 
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Reply #26 - May 15th, 2006 at 11:12pm

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It's all calm over here and I believe with beefhole too so no worries there. Smiley

Aye, absolutely.  I'm always up for a bit of non-vicious, friendly arguing; I'm very good at it, so I do it a lot Grin
 
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Reply #27 - May 16th, 2006 at 9:39am

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I'm still going for "real".  If it's an edit, it's a good one.  Shadows line up, scale is spot on, people posed around and on the plane are of proper scale, cast shadows and reflections, etc.  It could be faked, but not easily.  The simplest explaination is that it's real.

In the NorthEast US just about every paved surface is done using hot top.  I've lived in this area all my life so I have seen a bunch of the stuff.  I've definately seen very deep holes occur when the stuff under the pavement gets eroded away.  The pavement yields (bends) and then fails.  The edge around the pavement failure can be perfectly clean and crack free.

Anyone who's ridden a motorcycle and parked on hot top during a sunny summer day knows how fluid hot top can be.  Come back and hour later and your motorcycle is on its side.  The kick stand will cut through the hot top like a knife through butter, so you need to place a piece of wood or metal under the stand to distribute the weight.

I can totally see how a small sink hole, a Gulfstream, and hot top can equate to exactly the situation pictured.
 
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Reply #28 - May 16th, 2006 at 9:59am

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Thank you Chris, exactly what I think happened. Wink
 

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Reply #29 - May 16th, 2006 at 1:05pm

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Very real...I support Nexus's ideas 8)
 
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