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Reply #15 - May 6th, 2006 at 2:57am
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Ach! I didnt make myself clear.

What I meant was that the Catholics in Bavaria found his Nazi cult offensive- hanging Wotan symbols in the streets is a bit much for any Christian.


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P.S Wouldnt you get sick of seeing the swastika everywhere?
 
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Reply #16 - May 6th, 2006 at 3:13am

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P.S Wouldnt you get sick of seeing the swastika everywhere?


i would get sick of seeing it anywhere
 

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Reply #17 - May 8th, 2006 at 10:29am

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The way I see it is the NAZI's ruined the swastika.  Prior to the Nazi's rising to power, the swastika was a symbol of good luck and was a positive symbol in many cultures.

They're like "Hey, we've been using the swastika for a thousand years with no problems, then these Nazis come along and ruin it in the span of 10-15 years."
 

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Reply #18 - May 8th, 2006 at 2:42pm

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Its quite funny too how the swastika was actually stolen by Hitler to represent the party.
The swastika has been used for over 3,000 years.
Before Hitler used it for his representation, the swastika was a symbol of life, power, sun, strength and good luck. Its was used with positive connotations. Now because of Hitler, its has become a symbol of hatred.

Originally, in European, Middle and Far Eastern cultures the symbol always faced left. In American Indian use it faced both directions as it pleased the individual using it.

The National Socialists inverted it (Going, as they were, on ancient and classical European usage). Since facing left it is a symbol of good luck and victory once inverted it becomes a symbol of misfortune and defeat.

Yet another factor Almost Schickelgruber failed to consider.....no wonder he lost. Grin Grin
 

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Reply #19 - May 8th, 2006 at 3:01pm

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As an aside - the stylized swastika is still in use in the insignia of Escadrille 2/4 "La Fayette" flying Mirage 2000s.


 

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Reply #20 - May 8th, 2006 at 7:18pm

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Its quite funny too how the swastika was actually stolen by Hitler to represent the party.
The swastika has been used for over 3,000 years.
Before Hitler used it for his representation, the swastika was a symbol of life, power, sun, strength and good luck. Its was used with positive connotations. Now because of Hitler, its has become a symbol of hatred.

Originally, in European, Middle and Far Eastern cultures the symbol always faced left. In American Indian use it faced both directions as it pleased the individual using it.

The National Socialists inverted it (Going, as they were, on ancient and classical European usage). Since facing left it is a symbol of good luck and victory once inverted it becomes a symbol of misfortune and defeat.

Yet another factor Almost Schickelgruber failed to consider.....no wonder he lost. Grin Grin

Thus, nothing has changed.  The original swastika still holds its positive meaning.  Except no one draws that one. Wink Cheesy The only place I've seen the uber-happy swastika was on a Korean shrine map.  "Korean letters, circle, circle, line, korean letter, swastika?!?  Oh right, that's a proper swastika!"

I'll see if I can find it again.
 

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Reply #21 - May 10th, 2006 at 1:04pm

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Interestingly the correct Swastika is spinning in the opposite direction to the Nazi one.  Sadly the PC brigade seldome note the direction of your spin, they just firebomb your ass!
 

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Reply #22 - May 13th, 2006 at 4:48pm

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Indeed.  What gets me is people will hark on about what the meanie swastika symbolizes, yet ignore the happy swastikas symbolism.  People will believe what they wish. Tongue
 

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Reply #23 - May 13th, 2006 at 7:04pm

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In my experience, most people don't know that there is a happy swastika. Or they can't tell the difference between the nice one and the Nazi one.
 

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Reply #24 - May 13th, 2006 at 7:16pm

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Indeed.  Of course many people are historically clueless (D-Day?  Isn't that that World War I thingie?) so it's best to just avoid the topic altogether; it's not worth the trouble explaining it.
 

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Reply #25 - May 14th, 2006 at 1:16am

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...Of course many people are historically clueless...
Historcally, with the state that some people are in, they don't even know what state they're in (translate that as you will Wink). Roll Eyes 8)
 
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Reply #26 - May 14th, 2006 at 1:30pm

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*drifts further off topic*

I've noticed that, people being hostorically clueless. I remember when I was highschool this girl asked the history teacher what her report was supposed to be about and he told her "World War 2". She looked at him blankly for a good 30 seconds and said "there were two world wars?". The look on his face was a combination of  Shocked and  Angry. It was like if you asked Ozzy who this "Shakspere" character was.
 

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Reply #27 - May 14th, 2006 at 7:13pm

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It was like if you asked Ozzy who this "Shakspere" character was.

Well that's silly...  He shook spears!  Everyone knows that... Grin Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #28 - May 15th, 2006 at 3:09pm

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...and now Tacit has managed to allow Scorpion to draw the rest of us even further off of the initial topic (although Scorpion has undoubtedly defined what the first of the ancestral surname did Wink)
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Well that's silly...  He shook spears!  Everyone knows that... Grin Roll Eyes
As to the topic of peoples' historical ignorance, the youngest members to read this may think you're applying a nickname and we'll be hearing them talk about Shakespeare Federline. Roll Eyes 8)
 
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Reply #29 - May 17th, 2006 at 1:28am

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...and now Tacit has managed to allow Scorpion to draw the rest of us even further off of the initial topic (although Scorpion has undoubtedly defined what the first of the ancestral surname did Wink)
As to the topic of peoples' historical ignorance, the youngest members to read this may think you're applying a nickname and we'll be hearing them talk about Shakespeare Federline. Roll Eyes 8)

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