Simviation Forum - Help Repainting X-15

Feb 12^th, 2006 at 4:11pm

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I have repainted, a fs2002 for use with fs2004 but it does not seemed to of worked, My variation shows up but no texture???

could someone remind me of the Bitmap types again, I'm a novice at this stuff, Embarrassed

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Reply #1 - Feb 12^th, 2006 at 5:09pm

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Did you convert your repainted bitmaps back to extended (32-bit) format? If not, download DXTbmp.exe and it'll solve your problem.

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Reply #2 - Feb 12^th, 2006 at 5:53pm

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Yes I did, I'm not to sure if it is the bitmaps that is the proplem,

I think it is the CFG Aircraft file because, Ive been going by your tutorial, and all the things you have to edit are not in this FS2002 CFG Aircraft file? (eg Ui_variation)

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Reply #3 - Feb 12^th, 2006 at 6:32pm

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Can you copy the first bit of the aircraft.cfg file here so we can see it? Hopefully it's something very simple like a typo, which would make FS2004 look for a texture with a slightly wrong name.

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Reply #4 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:03am

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Here it is:

[fltsim.0]
title=X-15c
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=

And this is one below it I created:

[fltsim.1]
title=X-15c NASA Blue
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1
kb_checklists=

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Reply #5 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:39am

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V., dumb question, and more to eliminate the obivous (remember, you're not an "expert" until you've missed obvious things:

You DID create a " texture.1" folder,

and you DID NOT rename the textures?

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Reply #6 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:57am

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I always find that some aircraft work with 16 bit, some with 24, and some with 32. I've never had to convert to DXT, so try saving the bitmaps in different bit depths.

However, you don't have a UI_variation in your aircraft config, so I'm guessing that is the problem.

Add the variation line to BOTH variations of aircraft, call it what you want. Then try again.

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Reply #7 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 7:20am

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V., dumb question, and more to eliminate the obivous (remember, you're not an "expert" until you've missed obvious things:

You DID create a " texture.1" folder,

and you DID NOT rename the textures?

Yes I did create a new texure folder "Texure.1"

And no I did not rename the files.

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Reply #8 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 7:34am

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I always find that some aircraft work with 16 bit, some with 24, and some with 32. I've never had to convert to DXT, so try saving the bitmaps in different bit depths.

However, you don't have a UI_variation in your aircraft config, so I'm guessing that is the problem.

Add the variation line to BOTH variations of aircraft, call it what you want. Then try again.

I alterd the CFG and now it is listed bur texure still not showing must be Bitmap types.

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Reply #9 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 8:50am

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As a test - make copies of the textures involved, put them in a safe folder.

Convert the texture.1 textures to simple 8-bit (256 color) this is the basic no reflections, no nuttin' texture format, and see if it shows up.

This way, if these basic textures show up then the problem is, like you say, in the format you're using.

The only other thing I can imagine is that for some reason, your conversion back to DXT3 or 32-bit is not finding its way into the texture.1 folder and the texture.1 folder files are basic 24-bit bitmaps.

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Reply #10 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 8:50am

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Yes I did create a new texure folder "Texure.1"

Make sure you named it Texture.1 - not Texure.1.

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Reply #11 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 11:49am

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Email me a copy of the whole thing if you like, and I'll take a look. Click on my profile for my Yahoo address.

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Reply #12 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 1:04pm

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Sent CFG file and 4 texures, proberly in the wrong format.

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Reply #13 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 3:53pm

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The wings and tail repaints work fine, it's the textures for fuselage sides that aren't showing. That's because you named them:

X_15_side1_t.bmp

when they should be called:

X-15 side1_t.bmp

And the same with side 2, obviously. Just rename the file carefully, paying close attention to the difference between - and _ and everything will be okay.

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Reply #14 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:12pm

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They were named correctly?

Still no luck, are they the right file type

Extended 32bit 888-8

When I attached them to the email the file name probably changed, all spaces and figures to _.

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Reply #15 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:22pm

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When I attached them to the email the file name probably changed, all spaces and figures to _.

The easiest method would be to zip up your Texture.1 folder & attach that to the E-mail. The file names should not then be changed.

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Reply #16 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:25pm

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For some reason MSN wpuld not let me send a Ziped folder?, so I sent the files instead.

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Reply #17 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:30pm

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For some reason MSN wpuld not let me send a Ziped folder?, so I sent the files instead.

Maybe the complete folder was too big. You could zip the individual textures & send them.

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Reply #18 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:32pm

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The total zipped folder was 1.3MB, I tried zipping them individuality but that did not work ether.

This does not really mater, its not the file names that are the problem.

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Reply #19 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:37pm

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This does not really mater, its not the file names that are the problem.

Right. Let's start from the beginning. Make sure the edited files in your Texture.1 folder are saved in the correct format with their correct file names. Then check the new Aircraft.cfg entry is correct. The smallest typo will be enough for it not to work.

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Reply #20 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:45pm

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I'm sure about every thing Ive checked again and again and again...but the only thing I'm not sure about is the file type what should I be saving them as?

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Reply #21 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 4:49pm

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I'm sure about every thing Ive checked again and again and again...but the only thing I'm not sure about is the file type what should I be saving them as?

If this was me I would save them in the original format, whatever that might be. You said you're using Extended 32bit 888-8 which should be fine. You could also use DXT1 or DXT3 Extended BMP formats with FS9.

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Reply #22 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:05pm

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DXT3 no joy trying DXT1 Now

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Reply #23 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:10pm

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DXT1 no luck.

These were originally FS2002 textures any problem with that?

Im starting to think that I may have missed some thing in the CFG Embarrassed

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Reply #24 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:11pm

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[fltsim.0]
title=X-15c
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
ui_variation=NASA Black
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=

[fltsim.1]
title=X-15c NASA Blue
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
ui_variation=NASA Blue
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1
kb_checklists=

Could some one go over this please ???

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Reply #25 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:22pm

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All I did was rename the textures, and now they work just fine on my PC.

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Reply #26 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:26pm

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Could some one go over this please ???

That looks fine from a quick glance. Since my last reply I downloaded the X-15 & quickly repainted it myself. I saved the repainted textures in DXT3 format, the same as the originals. I used the same Texture.1 folder as you for the repaint. It works just fine. Here's my modified Aircraft.cfg entries.

[fltsim.0]
title=X-15c
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
ui_variation=default
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=

[fltsim.1]
title=X-15c Blue
sim=X-15c
ui_manufacturer=North American
ui_type=X-15c
ui_variation=Blue
description=X-15 By Massimo Altieri - Rocket plane for hypersonic flight
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1
kb_checklists=

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Reply #27 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:34pm

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I just checked out your shot again.

It looks to me that your new folder is incorrectly named Texure.1.
Rename it to Texture.1 & it should work.

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Reply #28 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 5:57pm

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Why am I so Stupid

*Banging head on keyboard*

I spelt Texture.1, Texure.1, Angry

Sorry about all the trouble over one T

Stupid,Stupid me!!! Angry

Now Ive got that sorted I can get on with my real repaint!

Thanks ever so much

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Reply #29 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:00pm

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LOL I suspected it all along. 8) Glad we fixed it. Cheesy

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Reply #30 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:18pm

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Im glad to...

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Reply #31 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:25pm

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Thank you, Hanger and Grayshnak

You're welcome but it's Hagar & gryshnak. Correct spelling is vitally important in this lark. Take my tip & use Copy/Paste wherever possible. That way it's impossible to make typos. 8) Wink

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Reply #32 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 6:27pm

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masmith: you are now a repainting expert

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Reply #33 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 7:50pm

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Gonna have to take out those "Mips" though......

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