Simviation Forum - Need some advice

Feb 11^th, 2006 at 10:01pm

sonic Offline
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Ok I have all the PAI packages, but my local airports isnt very accurate anymore. I want to take the flight plans off the KAVL website and create the accurate flight plans but I really dont now were to start. HELP Shocked

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Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2006 at 10:46pm

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You will need to use TTOOLS that came with the PAI installer.
Just read the readme file and you can edit all of you AI flight plans .

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Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2006 at 10:49pm

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To create your own flight plans use TrafficTools by Lee Swordy; http://www.simviation.com/fs2004utilities1.htm

Read the help file included, 'readme.htm' to get a handle on creating ai traffic.

If you find you need to enhance the airport (more parking) to handle the traffic, you can do that with Afcad also by Lee Swordy. Download the version appropriate to you FS ver. from the 'Utilities' download sections;
Above link for FS2004.
Here for fs2002http://www.simviation.com/fs2002utilities_ess1.htm

Dave

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Reply #3 - Feb 11^th, 2006 at 10:52pm

MIKE JG Offline
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Sonic you can start with TTools and websites like projectai.com and ai-aardvark.com.

A problem you're going to have to deal with is the following: How do you put in accurate schedules for your Ashville traffic and keep the previous traffic that is programmed from going there?

Putting in accurate traffic with accurate schedules is relatively easy using TTools and a little planning. But you don't want double the traffic showing up because all the PAI stuff will still be in their respective traffic files. In other words you will need to take out the KAVL traffic that you currently have or change those aircraft's flightplans to match what you really want.

Does that make sense? In other words if you create your own KAVL traffic file using TTools, you will have to eliminate the PAI traffic to keep from doubling up.

However if you just modify the current traffic's schedules you won't have to worry about doubling anything up.

The biggie is getting TTools and learning how to use it first. If you do that then we can talk you through the rest.

-Mike G.

Military AI traffic packages and scenery for the Microsoft Flight Simulator series.

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Reply #4 - Feb 12^th, 2006 at 11:36am

wji Offline
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I still think the JPEG I posted here a year ago shows best what the three (3) obligatory *.TXT files for Compiling in TTools v.202 should look like:

Remember
1.) Read Lee's TTools manual
2.) Create new traffic_new.bgl files for your tests (one can have as many *.BGL files in FS9 as they have room for)
3.) D/L and install MS's FREETraffic Toolbox SDK to easily run your tests.

Good Luck and have fun . . . I am.

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Reply #5 - Feb 12^th, 2006 at 6:16pm

sonic Offline
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Ok I am going to start Shocked

2questions
1 I want to remove the Pai flight plans can i just delete the airport from the airport.txt
2 Stupid Grin

can start a new line in the flightplan.txt or do I have to go from one to the other seems like it would get confusing.

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Reply #6 - Feb 13^th, 2006 at 8:07am

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1> If you remove the airport I'm sure you'll get a compile error as there will be flight plans using a non existant airport. Use Notepads Edit>Find function to find the flightplans.txt lines that use your airport. You can then remove or modify the lines to your liking.

2>Depends on your FS ver. 2002 only allows 1 traffic.bgl file so you have to edit or add to that. FS2004 allows multiple traffic*.bgl's. You may want to create a new one, like 'traffic_kavl.bgl'. This would be easier to edit as your local schedules change. (Using 1> you could cut and paste the the PIA flights to your new flightplans_kavl.txt to use as a template.)

Dave

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Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2006 at 11:24am

wji Offline
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Thanks, Sonic, for reminding me why I spent $29 bucks for F1's Ultimate Traffic (UT), thus gaining complete control over all my FS9, AI traffic (also comes with about a thousand new AF2 files and PalmSpotter)

P.S. Did you try using Mark Buskey's Asheville Regl. (North Carolina), AF2 from PAI? I would correct this problem by makig the airport (KAVL) AF2 fit the scenery-in-use and parking to the correct specifications and assignments. All this is done for one if using F1's UT

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Reply #8 - Feb 16^th, 2006 at 12:27am

sonic Offline
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Wow you can do all that with UT, I guess I always thought it was just AI like Pai. So you can add flight plans with it for example the flight from asheville to orlando they added recently I can add that easily.
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Thanks, Sonic, for reminding

Your welcome lol You all almost have me convinced to buy UT. Grin

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