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Jan 19th, 2006 at 2:51pm

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Hi guys ive just got a new combat sim something different to combat simulator which ive used for 2years .Dont know if anybodys got this falcon 4 allied force but im stuck with starting my f16 when i set the jfs to switch2 the engine doesnt start any ideas. Ive tried this on the falcon 4 forum to no joy but anybody out there that knows how to start an f16 could they help
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Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 5:31pm

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Assuming you have master on fuel set up etc
Throttle to Idle (move it up a bit from off)
JFS to 2
RPM gauge to 20%.
Throttle to 50%
Press Idle Detent
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Throttle to 70%
RPM gauge to 25%+ & climbing
Throttle to Idle
RPM gauge to 70%
finish start-up
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:19pm

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cheers AvHistory shall give it a go (will let u know wot happens lol)
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:29pm

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nope nothing go through the proper procedures and press the idle detent then click the jfs to start2 throttle at idle but nothing the gauge doesnt budge
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:39pm

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Quote:
press the idle detent then click the jfs to start2 throttle at idle


The sequence you listed is not right.

Idle detent gets clicked after JFS2-RPM/20%-Throttle/50%-Press Idle Detent.

As soon as you hit JFS2 the engine should start to wind up. Be sure you are opening it enough on the initial idle setting.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:45pm

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do i have to keep holding down the jfs to start button or can i just click it cos nothing on the rpm gauge still moves not a bit even if i do the idle detent after but i carnt do that cos it doesnt even get too 20 percent
 
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Reply #6 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:53pm

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This is driving me nuts everthing i do i get no reply from the gauge wot so ever ??? ???
 
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Reply #7 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 6:54pm

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Just one click it. 

Are you sure that:

Master Power 2-clicks
Master Fuel 1-click
Engine Fuel Feed/Normal 1-click
Air Source/Normal 1-click

are all set BEFORE you make the initial throttle to Idle move?
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 7:09pm

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yep as above ???
 
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Reply #9 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 7:11pm

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try pushing throttle up to 50-60% of travel for idle setting & see what happens.
 
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Reply #10 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 7:34pm

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nope i think im gonna give it up as a bad job nothing seems to make the engine start no matter wot i do Undecided
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 7:39pm

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Its worth moving the throttle through its entire throw a couple times before starting the whole procedure to ensure the analogue axes are "kicked in" and being read by the program too.
 
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Reply #12 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 7:56pm

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cheers avhistory tried that still nothing i might re-install the game maybe its something to do with that .ive recently updated to 1.0.5 maybe it has something to do with that patch cos i only put that on 3 days ago.
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 8:42pm

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RGR...Good Luck  Smiley

BTW If anyone is wondering why its hard to get an engine start in Falcon 4, just about every switch & button in this cockpit is functional.  Shocked

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Reply #14 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 9:42pm

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Reply #15 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 9:44pm

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Reply #16 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 9:46pm

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Reply #17 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 2:42am

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nice pics avhistory Smiley havent re-installed yet going to do it tonight shall ley ya know how i go on Wink
 
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Reply #18 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 5:11am

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There is more to life then pressing "E"  Grin  

Falcon 4 is my favorite sim & IMHO the best flight sim available for a home computer.

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Back in the bad old days, also known as the golden era of flight sims, the WildBunch had about 400 active pilots.

BEAR - VMF257
WildBunch
later
257th FG
Talons


BTW checked out ramp start with 1.05 & it was OK.
 
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Reply #19 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 4:33pm

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Hi avhistory hope you read this i managed to actually start the engine for the 1st time tonight yipppeeeeeee BUT? went to put the little one to bed came back and tried to start again no success the jfs switch doesnt budge again. First i thought its cos ive got caps lock on but turned it off and still carnt start up again. should have said ive recently aquired a x45 joystick and throttle and am wondering if this is the problem even when i put it in keystroke mode somethings definaetly messing it up+ i reinstalled falcon af put the latest patch on no problem the first time the f16 started but it was after that.
cheers flyingbart Wink
 
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Reply #20 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 6:06pm

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Thats good because you know the game is working OK

I am not familiar with your stick combo so really can't comment. try looking up the key command for JFS2 & use that to see what happens. 

Personally I use the mouse clicks for most of my switchology but have some basic stuff, gear - airbrakes etc mapped into my stick.
 
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Reply #21 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 6:14pm

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Makes me appreciate E more than ever all this. Smiley
 
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Reply #22 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 10:53pm

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There is always the I key in the other WWII prop sim  Shocked
 
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Reply #23 - Jan 22nd, 2006 at 2:17pm

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Quote:
There is always the I key in the other WWII prop sim  Shocked

We try not to thing about that. Wink


Why has the flash new MAW website reverted back to how it was before?
 
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Reply #24 - Jan 22nd, 2006 at 5:15pm

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A few issues came up. It will be back is a few days with some additional content & a slightly different, but not much look.

In the meantime some stuff to fly in the eastern med, one finished & two works in progress.

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Reply #25 - Jan 22nd, 2006 at 7:24pm

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Tis all looking rather nice. Smiley
 
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