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Jan 8th, 2006 at 6:15pm

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Well, there has been rumors ever since the day that Chevrolet stopped producing the legendary Camaro in 2002 that it would one day return.  Images, and designs had surfaced every now and then with GM always denying it.

Just, recently images were leaked from GM of what appears to be a concept Camaro.  They word is that they will unveil it at one of the major car shows this year (probably Detriot or New York) and it is estimated that they will be beginning production in the 2009 model year.

Of course, these are just rumors (nothing offical from GM) but I'm getting my hopes up.

To me, it looks like a retro-styled car simular to the new Mustang and the recently announced Dodge Challenger.  I see a lot of simularities in this car with the 1969 Camaro.

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Will it ever be produced?  Maybe, who knows.  But I hope so.  I really like it, I know that these aren't official(yet?) but its a nice thought.

But, the first 2 pics look like real photographs to me (but they could be chops).  I have also heard that the high performance one's are expected to have a 400hp all aluminum V8 engine!   Grin 8)
 
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Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2006 at 6:36pm

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Looks nice, but waaay to big
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2006 at 9:54pm

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way to big are you kidding me?
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 2:22am

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not bad. i can definitely see a convertible version of that.

what do you think the engine choices will be? straight from the corvette?
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 7:57am

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way to big are you kidding me?

Outside of America that size car wont sell well. Dont take this the wrong way but outside of america most american cars are nothing more than a joke. I like several of the muscle cars but they are an exception, primarily this car will be a large saloon. World sales are what make a company proper money. Sadly this wont have many, as its a great looking car.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 10:56am

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what do you think the engine choices will be? straight from the corvette?

Probably a motor stright from the Corvette.  The rumor is a 400hp aluminum V8 ("LSx") but history is that GM puts the previous Corvette motor in the Camaro.  So, I would expect something simular to an LS-6 V8 or something.

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Looks nice, but waaay to big

I don't know Craig, I think that size is hard to judge from these pictures.  There really isn't anything in them to scale the car to.  I really don't see it being any larger than a newer Mustang or 4th generation Camaro.
 
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 I really don't see it being any larger than a newer Mustang or 4th generation Camaro.  

And they are realistically to big for Europe.
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 4:19pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060109/us_nm/autos_show_camaro_dc_2;_ylt=As9EUU7J74...
There ya go Richie.

As for the size, you know I love these cars. But European roads are alot narrower and fuel alot more expensive here so it wouldn't work in bulk.
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 5:40pm

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Sweet!  I guess it is official.  The article says that they aren't going to build the for sure but I would imagine with the success of the new Mustang they probably will.  I think it looks awesome!

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As for the size, you know I love these cars. But European roads are alot narrower and fuel alot more expensive here so it wouldn't work in bulk.

Well, sure its larger than a European car (one of the reason that American cars handle so poorly) but its not any different in size than an American car of its class.

I don't see it being a big export success.  But, the same is true with any of the muscle type cars-evening dating back to the 1960s.  They are large cars designed to go fast in a stright line, not to turn well.  So, I really doubt there will be much international interest.
 
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Reply #9 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 5:52pm

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Its a shame really as it looks really nice.
Size isn't the issue for handling, BMW Mercedes Jaguar and Aston Martin all make large cars which handle well while being powerful. Its all down to the suspension and chassis. Americans like a smooth ride which usually means the tyres are bigger and suspension softer. The tyres in this case not being the big thick sort:) Which is fine because on a long highway trip the last thing you need is to be feeling every bump and pothole. From what I have heard the new Mustang is pretty good round a track aswell, but is it as fast and powerful as its 60's counterpart?
 
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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 6:03pm

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While it is true that handling does have a lot to do with suspension, it also as a lot to do with weight distribution.  The suspension in muscle cars (even the newer ones-my '96 Camaro is like this) is very stiff.  THe ride is not smooth at all.  But, it does not handle well.  I think the main reason is the front end is very heavy while the back is very light.

As for the new Mustang, I'm sure it has much improved handling-but I'll bet its not like a European sports car.  Is it as fast as its 60's counterparts (or at least the late 60s ones) probably not.  I haven't been in a newer Mustang so I don't know for sure.  But, I'll bet the older were faster (or at least seemed faster).
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2006 at 11:53pm

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Oh dear.  Now I know why I like Mustangs
 

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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2006 at 6:58pm

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Well american cars seem to have weak brakes compared to european cars. I believe the new Mustang is running on a Live Axle which sounds insane but the price really shows why.

The Corvette is still on Leaf Springs as well which are also ancient. I would still have one though even more so for the Mustang. Plus nothing makes the same noise as an American V8.

I also here that the Dodge SRT10 has an 8.3 litre engine and yet only produces 400 or so horses.
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2006 at 8:05pm

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I also here that the Dodge SRT10 has an 8.3 litre engine and yet only produces 400 or so horses.

The current SRT10 is rated at 510hp and 535ft/lbs or torque, don't forget torque is at least as important as big horsepower for performance and most european cars don't make torque like American cars.
 
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2006 at 11:38pm

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Probably a motor stright from the Corvette.  The rumor is a 400hp aluminum V8 ("LSx") but history is that GM puts the previous Corvette motor in the Camaro.  So, I would expect something simular to an LS-6 V8 or something.
 
was just reading up on it. . .LS2 powered!



btw http://www.fast-autos.net has a good article on the new Camaro and Challenger.
 

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