Simviation Forum - Stability of stock F4F Wildcat

Dec 17^th, 2005 at 6:41am

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Was the Wildcat really so easy to throw into a spin? Quite a nasty little plane to fly - the stock F4F. I've well over 100 downloaded aircraft in CFS2, few so unpleasant in combat as the Wildcat. Is this right? While the Polikarpov I-16, for example, had a real-life reputation for poor lateral stability, I thought the Wildcat should fly more stable than it does in CFS2?

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Reply #1 - Dec 17^th, 2005 at 11:54pm

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I can only relate what was told me via WW2 pilots (those in that little corner of my world when I was very young are gone now). What was said was that the Wildcat was fairly reliable and easy enough to fly -- but it was no aerobatics pro and couldn't do the controlled "turn and roll" with the best of them. The only true complaint I remember was from one pilot complaining about difficulty in manually operating the landing gear; I'm unsure if that was only a one-time or one-plane event (he's no longer around to elaborate).

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Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 2:46am

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The Wildcat was very dangerous little plane. You never took it lightly and think its a easy kill when you fly against it.

You have to learn to use you rudder and flaps and throttle properly. No it was not a supper easy plane to fly like the Zero and Oscar where. But once you get the hang of it its not that bad of a plane.

Always use team work when you are in a dog fight and if you meet a Zero by your self. Run boy run. Take one shoot at the Zero and if you miss. You only have one option. Run

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Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 9:25am

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Have you tried the 1% wildcat ???

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Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 9:38am

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Have you tried the 1% wildcat ???

http://www.avhistory.org/scripts/Downloads2/downloadMain.asp?WW2Fighters/1US_F4F...

What's happened to avhistory.org? Seems the boys have abandoned CFS2 and are focused entirely on CFS3... I have many 1% planes - they are great - I'd love to try their F4F...

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Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 10:50am

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What's happened to avhistory.org? Seems the boys have abandoned CFS2 and are focused entirely on CFS3... I have many 1% planes - they are great - I'd love to try their F4F...
J_0_J

All our CFS2 planes, over 100, are available for download at Netwings.

http://www.netwings.org

BTW the stock CFS2 Wildcat bears no relation to a Wildcat other then its visual. This holds true for all the flyable planes in the game. The stock damage models are also badly undervalued as demonstrated by the F6F Hellcat shown below.

MS CFS2 Stock Damage Profile

AvHistory CFS2 1% Damage Profile

BEAR&&http://www.avhistory.org&&http://www.medairwar.com

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Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 11:25am

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Good Idea guys. Yes, Av Wildcat is a very good quality version. I recommend it. You can it Here: www.netwings.org

At this moment the web is not available. try it later.Look at the CFS2 planes section Av planes. Its in there.

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Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 6:09pm

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Also, it depends on what flight model reliasm you're using... the Stock MS aircraft... well, they SUCK on hard. I tried flyin' the Hog last night on hard and as soon as I started to turn "stall"... the %1 aircraft are a helluva lot better, but the AI have a hard time using their complicated AIR files.

Good Hunting,
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Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 7:23pm

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Reason the F4 does not turn is the flight model is totally porked.

The jagged part of the MS stock F4 black curve is the Corsair stalling recovering & stalling again.

The red curve of the MS stock Zero shows that it can turn & pull G someplace between an F15 & F16. Not bad for an under powered WWII prop plane. Roll Eyes

This chart shown the AvHistory 1% Zero in black & the MS version in red. The black curve looks much more like a WWII Zero fighter. Shocked

BTW these charts are from older 2.79 files. All the 1% planes at Netwings have newer 2.80 files.

BEAR&&http://www.avhistory.org&&http://www.medairwar.com

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Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2005 at 8:14pm

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I always knew I could shoot down an F-16 in an F4U, and theres my proof. Grin

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Reply #10 - Dec 19^th, 2005 at 12:11pm

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Looks good, looks good. First time I've seen such a detailed comparison of Stock vs 1%.

However, Netwings is...

Service Unavailable

I hope it'll get back to normal service...

J_o_J

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Reply #11 - Dec 19^th, 2005 at 12:43pm

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However, Netwings is...

Service Unavailable

I hope it'll get back to normal service...

J_o_J

Jupp, the server is having HD problems.
Been down almost 24 hours, back to normal for an hour or two and now it's down again.

Mathias&&

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Reply #12 - Jan 1^st, 2006 at 11:57am

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Got it guys! Thanks Bear & Co. - this is a vast improvement over the stock Wildcat. Still, it's no Spitfire, but this thing is in control, takes off the slower carriers even fully laden, and I've now racked up more air-to-ari kills in this baby than in the horrid old stock Wildcat.

Get directly from this url:

http://files.netwings.org/files/avhistory/fighters/US/1US_F4F-4.zip

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