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Dec 5th, 2005 at 12:05pm

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Who was the leader of an occupied country whose name ended up being made synonymous with 'traitor'?
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 12:47pm

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You must mean Vidkun Quisling, the nazi leader of norway.
->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 12:48pm

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Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Jonssřn Quisling. Minister President of Norway from February 1942 to the end of WWII.
 

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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 1:39pm
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Who was the leader of an occupied country whose name ended up being made synonymous with 'traitor'?


Or Philipe Pétain, the definition of "traitor" for most of the Frenchmen.  Wink
 
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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 2:03pm

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Or Philipe Pétain, the definition of "traitor" for most of the Frenchmen.  Wink

Indeed.
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 2:09pm

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I would think that Petain was more a man broken by circumstances, and the Pierre Laval was the traitor/ opportunist;  but I will admit to a certain shakiness in my knowledge of that part of history.
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 2:17pm

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U guys are good!  I was looking for Quisling's name and I got Pétain to boot!    Cheesy
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 2:19pm

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I would think that Petain was more a man broken by circumstances, and the Pierre Laval was the traitor/ opportunist;  but I will admit to a certain shakiness in my knowledge of that part of history.

One man's traitor is another man's hero. I suspect that many more French people sympathised with Petain than they would care to admit. I can't say I blame them & wonder what I would have done in the same circumstances. Maybe my cynical side is showing again but I've often thought it amazing how many new members of the Resistance suddenly appeared after the liberation.
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 2:50pm

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U guys are good!  I was looking for Quisling's name and I got Pétain to boot!    Cheesy



I've found that the level of knowledge among the folks that venture into the History forum is amazing.  Sometimes the discussions can be enlightening, even to one who may be an "expert".

Identifying von Braun, or asking for Quisling's name would be (should be) a simple exercise for most of the folks in here.

Now, a question like "What major US fighter had main landing gear so large that it had to telescope a few inches in order to fit into the wheel well?"  may take a bit more research, but I have no doubt one of our "experten" will identify it soon.

 

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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 3:07pm

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Now, a question like "What major US fighter had main landing gear so large that it had to telescope a few inches in order to fit into the wheel well?"  may take a bit more research, but I have no doubt one of our "experten" will identify it soon.

Hmmm. I'll have to think about that. Major US fighter you say? I assume this is a WWII fighter. I wouldn't have considered that anything unusual before you mentioned it as many retractable undercarriages are a pretty tight fit & some have a very complex retracting sequence to get it all neatly tucked away.
 

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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 3:42pm
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"What major US fighter had main landing gear so large that it had to telescope a few inches in order to fit into the wheel well?"


I'd say either the P-40 or the F-4U, but that's just a good guess.
 
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 6:56pm

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I'm going to guess,

I say it's the F4U Corsair.  Reason for my guess is I know the Corsair was built arount the largest radial engine the US had at the time, the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp.  In order to use all that power to it's max, they had to stick a very big prop on it, hense the inverted gull wing and (I'm guessing) extended undercarriage.

But then again, both the Corsair and the Hellcat had their landing gear retract backward which limits the amount of wing real-estate the wheels can retract in, and the Hellcat used the same engine.  The Corsair got help in clearing the prop from the inverted gull wing so it didn't have to have landing gear that long, but the Hellcat didn't have that help.  I change my mind.  I say it's the Hellcat.

.....but I'm guessing.
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 7:05pm

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The one I'm thinking could (and did) get catapulted off a carrier, but couldn't land on it ...  it was an Army plane.
 

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Reply #13 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 7:32pm

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At a mention of that name, I was reminded of the film "The Silver Fleet". Well worth bringing out on DVD...

(The main character, a Dutch ship builder is accused of being a Quisling, amongst other things...)
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2005 at 3:29am

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U guys are good!  I was looking for Quisling's name and I got Pétain to boot! Cheesy
To boot? That's what happened to him Shocked 8)
 
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Reply #15 - Dec 6th, 2005 at 6:49am

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Pétain? He was convicted of collaboration/treason and sentenced to death by firing squad. This was commuted to life imprisonment by de Gaulle, and he died in prison in 1951 (aged 94 or 95 by this point)
 
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Reply #16 - Dec 6th, 2005 at 9:28am

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The one I'm thinking could (and did) get catapulted off a carrier, but couldn't land on it ...  it was an Army plane.



Ahhh, P47 Thunderbolt!  They were catipulted off carriers to land on Aslito Airfiled in Saipan after it was captured by the Marines.
 

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Reply #17 - Dec 7th, 2005 at 4:37am

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Pétain? He was convicted of collaboration/treason and sentenced to death by firing squad. This was commuted to life imprisonment by de Gaulle, and he died in prison in 1951 (aged 94 or 95 by this point)
It wasn't a question (not that those who didn't know, shouldn't) -- I was stating that "he got the boot" (as in, "kicked out"). If it weren't for his WW1 fame, the sentence may not have been changed (but, then, he undoubtedly wouldn't have held the Vichy presidency in the first place). Tongue
 
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