Simviation Forum - Errmm.... Air Force One?

Oct 24^th, 2005 at 4:02pm

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I think the movie was Air Force One...
I found the movie a big laugh!

This is the movie where the president's plane is evacuated by a Herk at a few feet above sea level.

Did anybody notice how the president etc. slid down the wire to the Herk forward, right against the relative wind? In real life, totally impossible.

The movie is full of nice surprises like this! Grin

Oh and I watched this other movie about an airplane in distress where they got a AH-1 Cobra to fly in formation with a 747 and shoot holes in the horizontal stabilisers, and they performed some water air to air refuelling I think with a 707 in order to fill the nose gear bay with water and bring the nose of the airplane down. And the 747 had a glass cockpit and an engineer's panel as well as some totally invented other screens that dont exist.

How do they come up with it? ??? Grin

These movies are worth the laugh. I suppose they are pretty impressive to people who know nothing about airplanes, though...

Anybody watch these?

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Reply #1 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 4:18pm

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Have you seen the one where these special ops/commando type guys board a 747 in flight through a docking tube type thing from the back of an F-117? They advertised it as a STEVEN SEGULL movie with STEVEN SEGULL in it and all kinds of STEVEN SEGULL stuff happening, but then he dies in the first ten minutes. Roll Eyes

Oddly enough, the movie actually got slightly better after that. Still, it reeked of cheesiness. I was actually angered by the fact that they thought it was possibe for 5 people to sit in the back of a nighthawk. Can a 117 even go fast enough to catch a 747?

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Reply #2 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 5:28pm

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Also on Die Hard (I think it's one of them, though I'm really not sure) where they're fighting on the wing of a plane...whilst the plane is taking off! Despite the fact that the plane takes a good minute-two minutes to take off, at that speed, I don't think you could stand unaided on the wing of any plane!

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Reply #3 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 6:18pm

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Despite the fact that the plane takes a good minute-two minutes to take off

Not a plane in the world that takes that long to takeoff.

Yeah some of them really are funny for people who know their stuff Grin

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Reply #4 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 7:30pm

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as a referance a fully loaded DC10 on a long haul flight takes roughly 45 seconds to get airborne from a stand still. Or so i have timed. So a 747 shouldn't be much differant if at all. The majority of take off time is just getting moving, once your really going like anything its not that tough to keep going faster.
Impossible to transfer between two moving aircraft? Maybe not. No doubt its been done somewhere. It wouldn't be pleasant but in the highly unlikely event it would need to be done, i doubt to many would complain.

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Reply #5 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 8:14pm

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I kinda like the autopilot in 'Airplane'... Grin

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Reply #6 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 8:20pm

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Impossible to transfer between two moving aircraft? Maybe not. No doubt its been done somewhere. It wouldn't be pleasant but in the highly unlikely event it would need to be done, i doubt to many would complain.

But he does have a point about AF1, for some reason I never picked up on it, but it would be impossible to move against the relative wind at 200 kts (just saw it the other day they matched at 200kts)

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Reply #7 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 8:54pm

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It's called Hollywood. Deal with it.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Oct 25^th, 2005 at 2:33am

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Impossible to transfer between two moving aircraft?

Probably not...

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into the relative wind

considering this is a jet at cruise speed... (and I think it even impossible for cessna speed!)
...Impossible... Wink

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Reply #9 - Oct 25^th, 2005 at 6:51am

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It's called Hollywood. Deal with it.. Roll Eyes

Word.

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Reply #10 - Oct 25^th, 2005 at 2:44pm

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considering this is a jet at cruise speed... (and I think it even impossible for cessna speed!)
...Impossible...

It wasn't at cruise speed the speed was reduced to whatever it was Beef said.
You dont go side to side anyway the aircraft you would be leaving would need to be infront of the aircraft your transferring to and slightly above so you slide downwards. The basic science of gravity suggests you cant travel upwards like that.

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Reply #11 - Oct 26^th, 2005 at 5:52pm

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Have you seen the one where these special ops/commando type guys board a 747 in flight through a docking tube type thing from the back of an F-117? They advertised it as a STEVEN SEGULL movie with STEVEN SEGULL in it and all kinds of STEVEN SEGULL stuff happening, but then he dies in the first ten minutes. Roll Eyes

Oddly enough, the movie actually got slightly better after that. Still, it reeked of cheesiness. I was actually angered by the fact that they thought it was possibe for 5 people to sit in the back of a nighthawk. Can a 117 even go fast enough to catch a 747?

My favorite Segall movie... because he dies right away.

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