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Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:06am

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LORD NELSON BORN:
September 29, 1758


Horatio Nelson, Britain's most celebrated naval hero, is born in Burnham Thorpe, England. In the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars, he won a series of crucial victories and saved England from possible invasion by France.


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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:13am

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And had a strange last wish to be kissed by a man called Hardy.....
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 9:52am

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And had a strange last wish to be kissed by a man called Hardy.....

That old chestnut is debatable & it's more than possible that what he actually said was "Kismet Hardy". He would have been very weak by this time & Hardy had to lean over him to hear what he was saying with his last breath. Unlike most of his crew, Lord Nelson was an educated man & this could easily have been misheard or misinterpreted. Still, like all these myths it makes a nice story.

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Fate; fortune.

PS. It's also possible that Hardy actually kissed him out of respect for his Admiral who had just died after being wounded in action. That would be nothing out of the ordinary.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 11:52am

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There is a big article about the battle of Trafalgar in the latest (October) issue of National Geographic. I haven't read it yet, but now I will.
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 12:06pm

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Now there's a reason for a drink. Grin

Incidentally, this october it will be 200 years since Trafalgar, hence the article in the National Geographic that I'm now going to have to find and read.

Bugger, seems my October edition hasn't arrived yet...
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 4:50pm

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It's interesting how, in my opinion, Nelson's legacy directly influence British Naval thinking into the 20th Century.   Jellicoe was derided for not seeking out the German High Seas Fleet and achieving a Nelsonian victory, vs Beatty's charge of the Battlecruisers was seen as act of Nelsonian proportions.  Neither, of course, was a Nelson, but the times and technologies had changed significantly.  In the end, the Grand Fleet prevailed.
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 5:14pm

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They were planning to erect another column in Trafalgar square after Jutland but in the end the battle was so indecisive that they had to settle for a mere fountain instead.
 
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 6:33pm

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i read somewhere that nelson, as captain of a corvette of 22 guns, almost lost his ship to charybdis.
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2005 at 6:44pm

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Very possible. They were turbulant times in those days.
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 4:35am
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Sick one. Seriously, he was an excellent symbol of the power that the British Empire wields, an the skill with which it does.
Sorry, but for an old schooler like me, nothing beats Old Nelson.


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Seriously, he was an excellent symbol of the power that the British Empire wields,

Andrew. I think you mean wielded. I'm as patriotic as the next chap but the British Empire no longer exists.
 
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Tis the Commonwealth now lad. Grin
 
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Reply #12 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 3:48pm
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On a side note, i went to the same school as Lord Nelson, well the same site at least!
Norwich school, Norwich, Norfolk.
They have a "house" (English term?) named Nelson.
Ironically i now live in Merton, South west London where Lord Nelson and Lady Emma Hamilton...err.. well you know..
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An interesting thought to go alongside this thread. As we all know the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square needs a permanent resident.

Yesterday the answer came to me, inspired by the words of Air Commodore Pete Brothers, upon the announcement the RAF Bentley Priory is to be sold by the MoD...

"Nelson saved the country, Dowding saved the world"...

He's quite possibly right. Maybe Lord Dowding would be a fitting occupant...
 
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"Nelson saved the country, Dowding saved the world"...

He's quite possibly right. Maybe Lord Dowding would be a fitting occupant...

I'll go along with that although unfortunately I can't see it happening. The treatment meted out to Lord Dowding after his victory was disgraceful. Anyone would think he'd failed instead of achieving a near-miracle. Sadly this is how this country so often treats its heroes.
 
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I think Dowding should be on that plinth. Very fitting.

Ah yes, I've also read the artical in the National Geographic and it's nothing special. Didn't tell me anything I don't already know. Just a recap of the battle really. Tongue
 
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Reply #16 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 11:55pm
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True, maybe I should stop living in the past.
Dowding deserves a monument....a big bronze one, with him in Service Dress and a Spit at his feet.


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