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Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:46am

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I just installed FS2004 on my PC and here are the problems.
1) The graphics are awful as the water appears light blue and the ground has black patches. I have tried customise scenery but no change.
2) While taxing any aircraft, left rudder turns are almost impossible the aircraft automatically turns to the right. I have tried pressing num lock and the number 5 key to align the wheels straight but no change. The nose wheels seem to have a mind of its own and keep on turning left and right, left and right without any input from me.
3) Parking Brakes seem to be constantly engaged and cannot be released so I do a slew mode climb the aircraft and release it. By doing this the brakes are released (the flight is on ignore crash mode) and then I reset the flight and the brakes can be released, applied  as normal.
I have tried two different joysticks same result.
My pc configuration is as follows
Windows XP
RAM 512 DDR
Nvidia 128 MB Gea Force 440 card
120 GB hard disk 
Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick
Logitech Forcefeedback joystick

What do you guys think needs to be done. Do I upgrade RAM or change the VGA card? Im totally frustrated and confused. I had an airliner pilot software which I had loaded and all the conflicts began afterwards. I have removed the airliner pilot software, changed the hard disk to a new one reloaded XP and now reloaded MS FS2004 but I still have these issues.
Can someone help.
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Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 1:19am

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Neville one question, what processor are you running?
The basic machine sounds okay but I reckon most of the trouble will be with your graphics card, you'll probably want to change it for a GeForce Ti card Wink
 

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Reply #2 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 1:20am

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Sorry forgot to add Mother board pentium 4
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Reply #3 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 1:25am

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Yup it is the graphics card that is the problem then!
I'm running a PIII 1Ghz with 512mb RAM and a Ti4600 and getting pretty good results.
Look around at Ti cards, a 4000 series will do, but a 5000 series kicks bottom Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 1:27am

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Save up youngin Wink nVidia 6800GT, 1 Gig of RAM and 3.0+Ghz processer are what you should have to run FS with excellent graphics, and at a decent frame rate.
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 5:18am

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I recommend you have a good luck at the 6600GT 128MB AGP version.  They are not expensive and offer such a performance increase over the 440.

You will go from  Cry to  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked with one of those.
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 7:42pm

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It's definitely NOT recommended to get a TI card if you can find better, they are well outdated, as stated above, look at getting a 6600GT as a minimum spec.

Your other problems are setting related and you need to go to the FS9 forum and ask there. It's fixable.

For instance, setting independent wheel brakes so you can apply opposite brake to offset torque on ground roll and steer properly while taxiing.

The effects you speak of are most likely present because of high realism settings, but not sure if you actually have hardware faults.

Customise or check to your control settings to see what you need to configure there. Iwon't go into detail as this isn't the correct forum for tht.

Why are you using 2 joysticks, get rid of one to stop conflicts, lose the logitech and cherish the sidewinder.

The GF4 MX series like your 440, need an entry added in one of the config files to make the reflective textures initiate, as they were not included in the original config.  (or am I thinking of FS2002?) Anyone know if this includes FS9?

In any event, the 440 isn't up to the job of modern gaming graphics, it needs to be on an old lady's internet machine instead. Buy a new card, but get your facts right first and find out what your mainboard will support, if it's worth spending more on your current PC etc.

512mb of ram is a little on the light side as well, especially considering how cheap ram is these days.

Shop carefully and save big $

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Reply #7 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 11:48pm

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Thanks to all, Your help is much appreciated, with all the inputs have managed to solve majority of the problems. The joystick conflict was because of another USB joystick which was plugged in for remote control flight simulation so the Brakes and the rudder conflict is solved most of the graphic issues have also been solved.
The only issue which remains is the water, which looks very artificial and of a unnatural blue color.
Could it be some graphics setting in Windows as I have just reloaded XP and service pack 2?? Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2005 at 11:51pm

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Just to add I checked with a 6600 256MB card with RAM upgraded to 1 GB and the problem still remains the same so am sure its not hardware but something in the software which is preventing the graphics.
(luckily i have a friend who has a computer shop who let me try the new card in my machine)
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Reply #9 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 12:42am

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Get a 6600gt. The 6600 vanilla is a poor performer for its price.

BTW, when installing the new card, did you reinstall the drivers and delete fs9.cfg?

Cause that may be the problem.
 

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Reply #10 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 12:52am

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OOPs I have no idea of the config.sys I thought if you uninstall and reinstall that would be enough. Could you please let me know what to do.
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Reply #11 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 5:42am

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I couldn't find the cfg file I was thinking of in FS9, it must have been an FS8 issue, sorry.

Make sure you don't mistake the 6600GT for the 6600, the 6600 often comes with lots of slow ram and  is not near as good as the GT model, which is commonly made with 128mb of quality, high performance ram.

Look for Lemoncat's water texture replacements in the FS9 scenery downloads, or ask in the forums where to get them. Lemoncat is often in the screenshot forum.

Turning the water effects and reflections off will give you much better performance on your MX440 and it will render the water much darker as well. Clouds will kill your  framerates, so turn them off when you need performance, ie. landing in busy airports with lots of scenery.

Unfortunately, FS9 doesn't render well on older equipment, I had an overclocked MX460 and it was disappointing. I went to a TI4200 128mb 8x AGP card, a bit better, then a FX5900XT O/clocked to an ultra, still lacking, now I have a 6600GT and it's finally reasonable.
So, you can waste lots of time and money like I did, or just get something decent to start with.   8)

There are basically 3 slot types of video cards currently on the market, PCI, AGP and PCIexpress from oldest to newest. There is also "onboard" graphics on many mainboards.
AGP comes in a few flavours with 4x and 8x being common, PCI cards are generally used to try replace onboard graphics where a board doesnt have an AGP slot, (a dubious solution), and PCIexpress offers the newest and fastest interface.

If you buy an expensive video card, you need to consider that an AGP type may be incompatible with any future mainboard upgrade you wish to buy. So, if you plan on buying a new system in the near future, best to wait and get a PCIe video card on the new system.

It's in your interest to post your system specs here so we can suggest the best upgrade route, for without your detailed specs, we can't offer any solutions tailored to you.

An accurate mainboard ID number with revision number is adequate, Look at your mainboard itself and read the actual ID there. It will say something like "MSI 845 Pro2-R" or something equally unintelligible.... the revision no. is sometimes near a corner of the board, sometimes near the name. Also, if the PC is a Dell, Compaq, HP etc., please warn me off in advance.   Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Sep 24th, 2005 at 1:08pm

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Save up youngin Wink nVidia 6800GT, 1 Gig of RAM and 3.0+Ghz processer are what you should have to run FS with excellent graphics, and at a decent frame rate.


Something similar to mine..... 8) 8)
 
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