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Aug 23rd, 2005 at 1:01pm

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Well 700 years ago Sir William Wallace was executed in London, and no I won't be watching Braveheart as it is a Hollywood debasement of history!
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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 1:16pm

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I won't be watching Braveheart as it is a Hollywood debasement of history!

On that subject, is the legend of Robin Hood an English debasement of history?
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So allow me to quickly recap. We have a roving band of men making surprise attacks at English garrisons and troops. William, the leader, Marion his well-to-do mistress and, by this time, around 15 fellow Scots, one of whom was named Little (Edward Little), and a to add to the similarity a Benedictine monk. Sound familiar?

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Reply #2 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 2:30am

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On that subject, is the legend of Robin Hood an English debasement of history?

If nothing else, an extensive revision. According to most accounts relative to the modern legend, RH would have existed a century sooner, not that much after the "Norman" ascendancy to the English throne: during the time of Richard I. Richard I was the foremost leader in the Third Crusade and had subject areas on the continent, thus his brother John took control in the homeland while Richard spent considerable time elsewhere (including being held in prison for ransom).
Accounts of Wallace could have easily been applied as the RH character, who may or may not have actually existed as a single personage or a composite: possibly, if not probably, the latter. The century sooner setting would also have put the "common" Anglo-Saxon descendants somewhat more at odds with their Norman-descended 'lords'. Counter-assimilation sometimes moves rather slowly.
 
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