Simviation Forum - repaints not showing.

Jun 7^th, 2005 at 12:02am

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I've been trying to paint planes differently, but whenever I edit the textures to a certain extent, they don't show up anymore. I've been trying to paint a Kittyhawk design 737-800, and it won't show up. Also, on Kirk Olsson's F-16, I painted the tail, and that went fine, but when I started working on the rest of the plane, it turned 'no-texture' grey. Any help? Or anyone who would want to be my minion for new paint jobs?

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Reply #1 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 11:27am

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Sounds like you forgot to convert them back to DXT3 or 32bit (I reccomend you use 32bit) I presume you have, and can use either dxtbmp, or image tool? Jut open the files you've edited, and

(imagetool)
[image menu] >> [format] >> [32bit] OR [DXT3]

(dxtbmp)
[file] >> [save as] >> [extended bitmap] >> and select type as 32 bit, or dxt3

need any more help, just post back here.

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Reply #2 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 2:06pm

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To add to the comments - FS will recognize just about any *.bmp format except a 24-bit (16M colors) image.

To test if that is the problem, save your texture as an 8-bit (256 color) bitmap and see if it shows up. If it doesn't , then you're looking at some other problem. If it does, then you can fiddle with the format, alpha, etc.

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Reply #3 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 4:37pm

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Thank you, that was my problem. I'm stuck using Paint, and it automatically saves the images as 24-bit. Much thanks.

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Reply #4 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 4:40pm

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Thank you, that was my problem. I'm stuck using Paint, and it automatically saves the images as 24-bit. Much thanks.

Ahh, wait. I come to find Paint can't save as 32-bits. unless another format would work. I would like to use a better program, but they confuse me.

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Reply #5 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 6:09pm

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THen follow igorski's advice asnd use DXTBMP to change the formats.

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Reply #6 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 7:45pm

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8-bit works. I wish it was a bit higher quality, but it will suffice. Thank you.

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Reply #7 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 7:48pm

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how many colours is 8bit? I suggest you get imagetool and save as 32bit. Much higher quality.

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Reply #8 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 8:48pm

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I'm not sure I can. I only have MS Paint.

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Reply #9 - Jun 7^th, 2005 at 9:04pm

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can you give me a direct link to a better program to use?

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Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2005 at 4:00am

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No graphics program that I know of saves bitmaps in 32bit, not even PSP. You need dxtbmp (or imagetool) to convert them.

http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/programs/dxtbmp.htm

or for imagetool:
http://www.projectopensky.com/files/index.php?dir=paint-resources/&file=imagetoo...

actually some of the others on this page might be useful too (and you can get I.T. if the link abv does not work:
http://www.projectopensky.com/files/index.php?search=&dir=paint-resources%2F&sea...

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Reply #11 - Jun 20^th, 2005 at 11:34am

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Hi MidEx812, good luck with your repaints. Did I miss the part where you said you would d/l DXTbmp.exe?

DXTbmp is FREE here at SimViation. The link is included in the SIMVIATION REPAINT TUTORIAL and is a must-have for repainter whichever paint program one chooses -- including Adobe Photshop. Have fun.
bill

P.S. Here's the blab on DXTbmp:
"DXTBmp - 16 bit Texture Manipulator Updated program for the creation, conversion, compression of the 16/32 bit Texture formats used by CFS2, FS2000, FS2002 & FS2004 Uses nVidia codecs for converting Images to 444-4, 555-1, 565, 888-8 DXT1 and DXT3 formats. Allows the editing of 16/32 bit textures in any Paint program. Reads all default CFS2/FS2000/FS2002/FS2004 formats except 8 bit (use Bmp2000 or BmpExt for them). Separate editing of Alpha channels. Good quality mipping. Preview all Mips. Convert most image formats. Import/Export Targa 32 bit images with Alpha. Import DDS. By Martin Wright. 541K"

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