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May 5th, 2005 at 9:59am

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Okay, so it happens only during the first 12 years of a century ....  but today is 05-05-05 ...  the ONE day this year that you whether you type in Month/day/year, day/month/year, year/month/day, or year/day/month, that there will be no discussion as to what day/month/year it is.
 

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Reply #1 - May 5th, 2005 at 10:01am

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yea
and the last will be the 12 dec 2012 (12-12-12)

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Reply #2 - May 5th, 2005 at 10:03am
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The third was 03-03-03...


I found it quite funny on FNC this morning they ran the date as 5-6-05....I thought "How in the world can you screw up the date TODAY??"
 
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Reply #3 - May 5th, 2005 at 12:10pm

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Reply #4 - May 5th, 2005 at 1:08pm

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Happy Cinco De Mayo!



<Groan>  I concede that the 'noles party harder than the Gators....

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Reply #5 - May 5th, 2005 at 1:41pm

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The third was 03-03-03...


I found it quite funny on FNC this morning they ran the date as 5-6-05....I thought "How in the world can you screw up the date TODAY??"

Fair enough. I thought it was the fourth actually.

My favorite date ever was 9/9/99. I had fun writing that one. Grin
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #6 - May 5th, 2005 at 2:13pm

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I wonder if anyone noticed when XII/XII/MCCXII came about?  Did anyone even care?
 

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Reply #7 - May 5th, 2005 at 2:16pm

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Maybe. Maybe not. Such exciting dates are harder to spot in roman numerals. Grin
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #8 - May 5th, 2005 at 2:37pm

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I wonder if anyone noticed when XII/XII/MCCXII came about?  Did anyone even care?


  LOL, that's a good one Felix......

  Say, isn't this election day in England?
 
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Reply #9 - May 5th, 2005 at 2:59pm

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 Say, isn't this election day in England?


Sadly, yes...
 
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Reply #10 - May 5th, 2005 at 11:22pm

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Sadly, yes...


  Ooooooh..........why so sad??
 
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Reply #11 - May 6th, 2005 at 7:43am

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 Ooooooh..........why so sad??


Look at the result... Wink

After eight years his false emotions and smarmy grins have become rather tedious...
 
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Reply #12 - May 6th, 2005 at 1:38pm

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Look at the result... Wink

After eight years his false emotions and smarmy grins have become rather tedious...

Yes, but it was either him, a vampire or a ginger alcoholic. Tongue
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #13 - May 7th, 2005 at 11:33pm

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Yes, but it was either him, a vampire or a ginger alcoholic. Tongue


  I wish here in the U.S. we had the number of party choices that you Brits have.  Somehow the two party system here in the U.S. just doesn't cover all the bases.
 
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Reply #14 - May 8th, 2005 at 8:41am

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 I wish here in the U.S. we had the number of party choices that you Brits have.  Somehow the two party system here in the U.S. just doesn't cover all the bases.

I must point out that the Liberal Democrat party, the third choice, has never been in power. So we do effectively have just a two party system. Tongue
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #15 - May 8th, 2005 at 10:38am
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We really don't have a two party system.  The two common parties seem to produce the only legitimate candidates, but you've always got the Green Party, etc....but they don't reflect a very large portion of society, which is why they're not as big.  It's working exactly the way it's supposed to.

Plus, most Democrats aren't the Michael Moore/Ted Kennedy type...they're an entirely different breed of Democrat....
 
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Reply #16 - May 8th, 2005 at 8:37pm

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I must point out that the Liberal Democrat party, the third choice, has never been in power. So we do effectively have just a two party system. Tongue



Point of information, the Liberal Democrats of today trace their history to the Liberal Party founded about 150years ago.    Although for (about) the past 80 years the PMs have been Conservatives or Labour, the Liberals were the party in power for most of the first 20 years of the 20th Century. 

David Lloyd George was the PM during most of WW1.

Winston Churchill "broke ranks" and at an early point he was part of the Liberal Party.

 

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Reply #17 - May 9th, 2005 at 12:41am

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  It dawned on me that with a multi-party system its possible for a canditate can be elected without carring a majority of the populace.  So perhaps a two party system isn't bad after all.
 
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Reply #18 - May 9th, 2005 at 7:49am

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 It dawned on me that with a multi-party system its possible for a canditate can be elected without carring a majority of the populace.  So perhaps a two party system isn't bad after all.


Remember that the PM is not elected directly, but rather is an MP, elected in his "safe" constituency.  In fact, Tony Blair was elected by 24,521 voters in his Sedgefield constituency.

In the parliamentary system, (please correct me if I'm wrong) I understand that if a party does NOT have the required majority, the head of state (in this case the Queen?) calls upon a respected MP to form a coalition government.

Also, the government can be "brought down" by a vote of no-confidence.

 

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Reply #19 - May 9th, 2005 at 1:18pm

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In the parliamentary system, (please correct me if I'm wrong) I understand that if a party does NOT have the required majority, the head of state (in this case the Queen?) calls upon a respected MP to form a coalition government.


In this case it would be a hung parliament and another general election would be held to clear it all up.


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It dawned on me that with a multi-party system its possible for a canditate can be elected without carring a majority of the populace.  So perhaps a two party system isn't bad after all.

As for your comment denishc, forgive me for bringing this up, and even more so if it's wrong, but it's my belief that G.W. Bush in the 2000 election got 49% of the vote. Proving that no form of democracy is without fault. Wink
 

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Reply #20 - May 9th, 2005 at 1:20pm

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Point of information, the Liberal Democrats of today trace their history to the Liberal Party founded about 150years ago.    Although for (about) the past 80 years the PMs have been Conservatives or Labour, the Liberals were the party in power for most of the first 20 years of the 20th Century.  

David Lloyd George was the PM during most of WW1.

Winston Churchill "broke ranks" and at an early point he was part of the Liberal Party.


They may trace their history back to that. But the Liberal party of old and the Liberal Democrat party are two very different animals. The Liberals have held power. The Liberal Democrats have not. Tongue Wink
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #21 - May 9th, 2005 at 3:57pm

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But the Liberal party of old and the Liberal Democrat party are two very different animals.

The same could be said for "New Labour". It bears no resemblance to the traditional Labour party. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #22 - May 9th, 2005 at 4:22pm

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The same could be said for "New Labour". It bears no resemblance to the traditional Labour party. Roll Eyes



Of course, we could say the same thing here in the US ...  Today's Republican and Democratic Parties barely, if at all, resemble their early 20th century incarnations...

 

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Reply #23 - May 9th, 2005 at 6:29pm

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dont worry my british friends, if things carry on as they are, it is very possible that the Lib dems could become the second party at the next election. With Brown being the most likely to run for labour they will win a 4th term no question, it would take something big to stop that. Its now a question, of the Tories sorting out their problems or they could very likely become the third party.
 
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Reply #24 - May 9th, 2005 at 7:21pm

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dont worry my british friends, if things carry on as they are, it is very possible that the Lib dems could become the second party at the next election.

I'm not a political animal but I'd better keep my big trap firmly shut on what I think of that possibility. Shocked Lips Sealed
 

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Reply #25 - May 9th, 2005 at 8:49pm
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As for your comment denishc, forgive me for bringing this up, and even more so if it's wrong, but it's my belief that G.W. Bush in the 2000 election got 49% of the vote. Proving that no form of democracy is without fault.


Liberals are a funny breed.  No matter what the discussion, this comes up.

I needn't remind them that under the rules set forth by the electoral college system, which was established in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the object of "the game" is to win 270 electoral votes.  Nowhere does it ever say you need to win a majority.

But the US is a democracy, you ask?  You'd be wrong again, my blue state donkey friend.  The United States is not, nor has it ever been a democracy.  It's a representative republic.

If you take a few moments to read an excellent document that I'll link to below, you'll understand WHY the electoral process was set up this way. 

Until then, to those of you who think you were robbed in 2000, get yourself a little steno pad and write down your gripes while you watch the next installment of the Fahrenheit 911 trilogy.

Great link:  http://www.fec.gov/pdf/eleccoll.pdf
 
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Reply #26 - May 9th, 2005 at 10:07pm

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You'd be wrong again, my blue state donkey friend.



Woody is a Brit, not a "blue state donkey friend"....


BTW - Very nice link ...

Another intersting (for me) link is:

http://uselectionatlas.org/

 

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Reply #27 - May 10th, 2005 at 1:15am

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I needn't remind them that under the rules set forth by the electoral college system, which was established in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the object of "the game" is to win 270 electoral votes.  Nowhere does it ever say you need to win a majority.


 True enough, here in the U.S. its not the number of popular votes you get, but the number of states you win.  But am I mistaken to say that 270 electoral votes are two/thirds of the all electoral votes available and therefore a majority, of electoral votes that is?
 
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Reply #28 - May 10th, 2005 at 5:27am

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Woody is a Brit, not a "blue state donkey friend"....

Quite right. Someone seems to be jumping to conclusions again. Not only that but calling someone a donkey doesn't sound too complimetary to me. Roll Eyes

I expect Woody's as confused about US politics as I am - & no doubt most Americans are with how it's done on this side of the old puddle. Heck, that even confuses me. I have no idea of his political leanings but blue is the colour of the Conservative party so a True Blue would be a die-hard Conservative. If he's anything like me he's wary of all politicians, no matter which side of the fence they happen to be on. They're all tarred with the same brush & we tend not to take our politics too seriously over here.

As a matter of interest, Blair's New Labour party was returned to power on something like 36% of the vote, meaning that 64% of people that actually voted didn't vote for New Labour.
 

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Reply #29 - May 10th, 2005 at 7:00am

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Quite right. Someone seems to be jumping to conclusions again. Not only that but calling someone a donkey doesn't sound too complimetary to me. Roll Eyes
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Traditionally, the Democratic Party in the US is characterized by a donkey symbol, with an elephant representing the Republican Party. 

 

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Reply #30 - May 10th, 2005 at 7:54am
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No, no, I know Woody's a brit.  I was referring to anyone who feels that the 2000 election was in any way mishandled...Sorry if it felt like I was tackling you Woody...
 
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Traditionally, the Democratic Party in the US is characterized by a donkey symbol, with an elephant representing the Republican Party.

Thanks for clearing that up Felix. Must admit I didn't know that but that's understandable as I have very little interest in politics anyway. It's quite possible that Woody would have known. I reacted on how it appeared to me & I have no right to take offence on his or anyone else's behalf. Shows how easily things can be misinterpreted & why we decided to steer clear of certain topics on this forum. It's quite obvious that some people take all this far more seriously than others so I think it might be best to stick to that decision.
 

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Reply #32 - May 10th, 2005 at 8:52am

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As for your comment denishc, forgive me for bringing this up, and even more so if it's wrong, but it's my belief that G.W. Bush in the 2000 election got 49% of the vote. Proving that no form of democracy is without fault. Wink


As did Clinton in '94 (Nixon in '72, Kennedy in '60)

Getting a US President elected with less than 50% of the popular vote is not as rare as one would think .

Like Hype(rion) indicates, the winner is the one who gets the electors.

The link I offered above shows a county-by-county "map" of election results, which makes it a lot more interesting reading....
 

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Reply #33 - May 10th, 2005 at 11:11am
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In the 2004 race, GWB actually got a true majority as well as an electoral victory.  If I'm not mistaken that's a first...
 
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Reply #34 - May 10th, 2005 at 1:22pm

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Well I don't claim to be an expert on any sort of politics. But I was just commenting on denishc's remark about the winner not needing the majority of the votes.

Not that I really care about politics anyway. I just let them get on with it. And if I'd been able to vote in the last election I would probably have just thrown my vote away anyway. Maybe by voting for one of the Cornish independence parties just for a laugh. Grin


Anyway. How did we get from funny dates to this?

How do you think the people of earth reacted to the XI/XI/MCXI? Grin
 

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How do you think the people of earth reacted to the XI/XI/MCXI? Grin



From a UK news site (The Mirror):

"But is it a lucky day, or could doom be impending? Back on November 11, 1111 at 11:11, the Battle of Hastings was long past and King Henry I was still sitting happily on the English throne.

Absolutely nothing remarkable happened during that rare palindromic minute.
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Reply #36 - May 10th, 2005 at 1:34pm

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Hmm, I wouldn't trust what the Mirror said...

The Daily Mail would say that it was to blame for the rise in house prices. Grin
 

Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Reply #37 - May 10th, 2005 at 1:37pm
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And the New York Times would blame Bush. lol
 
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