Simviation Forum - ILS Landing Tutorial with Screenshots

Reply #105 - Aug 12^th, 2007 at 5:37pm

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Pleaseeeeeee! help!! Embarrassed

i still keep crashing after 2 days of trying
how do i know what's the runway direction? Angry

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Reply #106 - Aug 12^th, 2007 at 6:43pm

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The runway heading (direction) can be found by the runway "name". E.G, runway 12 is at a heading of 115 - 124 degrees (I think). Runway 13 is a heading of 125-134, and so on. Someone will correct me if i'm wrong, but this is how I have been flying for a few years and works fine Cheesy

You could also just use the GPS for a visual indication of where the runway is.

Edit:
Use the FS map and click on the runway to get the exact heading.

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Reply #107 - Aug 12^th, 2007 at 7:45pm

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Flying an approach and landing in general is a complicated thing. Lots of stuff going on..

Practice it all in a smaller, slower plane and then work your way up

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Reply #108 - Aug 12^th, 2007 at 9:34pm

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Nav,

First, I would just like to jump on the bandwagon and congratulate you on a fine tutorial. It is with complete honesty that I say your approach to the topic was not only helpful, but also very professional in appearance. Well done.

Moving on a bit, I have always been the type of person that likes to have some paper in front of me to read from; I do not do so well looking at a computer monitor for extensive reading and learning. Because of that, I copied your tutorial (for personal use) and put it into a pamplet form on Word. I was wondering if you (Nav) and the powers that be (SimV mods and admins) would like to check it out and perhaps have it available for download. Just a thought, and yea or nay on that idea is fine with me. As a note, I should point out that I made some tiny changes to reflect the difference between reading the tutorial as a pamphlet versus looking at it online. Nothing significant was changed, merely a few cosmetic details.

Anyway, thanks again. Really helpful guide.

All the best,
~Darrin

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Reply #109 - Aug 13^th, 2007 at 10:26pm

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Thanks for the kind words, Xyn_Air. It seems to be 'lasting' well and helping quite a few people, anyway.

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I was wondering if you (Nav) and the powers that be (SimV mods and admins) would like to check it out and perhaps have it available for download.

- there's no copyright on it or anything but if it's left to me, on reflection I'd rather not. I did have it in mind to make it into a download myself, but left it too late; if you look under 'Help & Tutorials' on the Simviation Main Page you'll find that there are already two straight 'cribs' of it available for download on there - entitled 'ILSTUTORIAL' and "ILS Landing.' Here are quotes illustrating the (terribly low) standard of each:-

ILSTUTORIAL – “When you are about to fly over the runway you should disarm the auto throttle and bring the throttles to idle for a 145-150 knot landing in our 737-800. Landing speeds will vary depending on the aircraft you are choosing to fly! Ohh… and don’t forget to lower the gear. On touchdown, activate the reverse thrust levers and extend the spoilers. (you may choose to use the auto breaks as well.)”

ILS Landing – “Now comes the time to turn of the “Auto-pilot” and take the aeroplane yourself the runway looks big close in just keep the aeroplane level do not make any 10’ turns if the aeroplane pitches up a bit pitch it down till you become perfect for landing again not violent forces up. Looks at the whole length of the runway not the beginning of it and then as you become lower to about 500-300feet, raise the nose till it just covers the distant horizon keep it there until the back wheels touch down the a couple of seconds later lower the nose wheel to the ground then press (/) for spoilers and (F2) for reverse thrust to come to a complete stop then request taxi to the gate : )”.

However, there is also a link to the proper tute under 'Help and Tutorials' - so anyone who needs help can access it already. And of course, anyone who asks about landing on the forums gets referred to it too. Personally, I'm happy to leave it at that.

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Reply #110 - Nov 24^th, 2007 at 2:49am

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Hey, a very nice tutorial, I got it on my first try, but now im getting confused again.

After I punch in the runways frequency on the "nav 1" in the radio stack, and switch from stand by, after when I punch in the runways course, I dont click on "nav" after that, do I ?

-JerseyFlyer

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Reply #111 - Nov 24^th, 2007 at 3:54am

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Nope you use the Approach button. If you would use Nav nothing happens. Besides some very strange things you don't want......

Crash Wink

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Reply #112 - Nov 24^th, 2007 at 2:00pm

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;o okay

Ill be sure to take your word for that. Grin

Mmkay tho, I was just making sure I dont hit that, I know all the steps, I just guess it takes some getting used to, lol.

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Reply #113 - Dec 12^th, 2007 at 3:57am

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THANK YOU ... BiG time!
Ive been flying MFS since 98,00,02,04,X
and still Ive learnt some new skills from ur thread! Wink

Take It To The Limits ...

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Reply #114 - Dec 12^th, 2007 at 9:23pm

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Pleasure, Flight, glad it was useful.

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Reply #115 - Dec 19^th, 2007 at 10:19am

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Great post. Thanks for the info. It would be awesome if you could make a video of it and post it on Youtube so you could see what you are doing as you do it from start to finish.

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Reply #116 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 9:45am

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Cheers R/C Ben!

Apologies are due from me, willg - I'd got the impression from our conversations on landings on other threads that you were a bit 'newer' than that.

I really wouldn't be too bothered about landing exactly on the centre-line - anywhere (on the runway) suits me! And as the mistake in the tute shows, a gentle bank, giving the aeroplane time to respond, will usually get you out of trouble anyway.

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i could do with some help on jet take off, as i always seem to get the nose up with the plane now climbing at all, jsut flying along the ground with the nose up for ages.

The answer is most probably 'the need for speed'. Sounds as if you're getting the nose too high too early, before the aeroplane has the airspeed/wing lift to climb, so it's using all the available power just to stay in the air; what they used to call 'hanging on the prop'.

Watch the VSI and the ASI; keep straight, and keep the angle of climb at no more than say 15 degrees, until the speed reaches at least 180-200, the gear is retracted, and you've reduced to one notch of flap. After that she'll go up like a lift!

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Reply #117 - Feb 22^nd, 2011 at 12:41pm

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this is GREAT info...ill try it to night and see if all this works in fs 2004 for windows vista. but i think some info has gone on PERMANENT vacation. i cant get ils to work any place, except in the pre programs. as i said all check and thank you for this great information

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