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The Famous Small Garden Animals of History Debate (Read 624 times)
Feb 12
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There you go Doug.
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Errm - thanks Will - I think.
Not sure where to start. I have all sorts of animals in my garden. They seem to like it as it resembles a tropical jungle most of the time. One unwelcome visitor is an urban fox that seems to regard my garden as its own property. Actually I suspect it's a vixen as it doesn't seem to do my lawn any good. I like animals & wish them no harm but I would dearly love to get rid of it. To be honest if I had a gun I would shoot the blasted thing. Foxes don't belong in built-up areas, let alone my back garden.
PS. I suppose this could be loosely described as Natural History so this is the best place for it.
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Over here we get lots of deer in the vineyard. One of my friends had an unfortunate encounter with a wild boar which left him with a broken leg.
With the flat the only visitors we get are ruddy pigeons. I've just remembered to get the air pistol out of the cupboard! I HATE flying rats
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All suggestions on removing unwelcome urban foxes from Hagar's back garden gratefully received. I'm not a violent person & would prefer to do this without loss of life. Also the least mess involved the better. I just don't want the blasted thing on my property. So far it's ignored all notices to that effect. "Hagar's Property - Foxes Keep Out..........!" Not only can it not read it seems to be oblivious to subtle hints like me hurling anything to hand at it. I've lost several shoes in this way & I'm running out of ammo.
PS. Sensible suggestions only please. I'm perfectly capable of thinking up silly ones myself.
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Feb 12
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Doug, a small bb gun might work. They dont have enough power to kill it, and they use small plastic pellets as ammo these days so it wont even do any damage. It should be enough of a sting that it gets it to leave and after a few encounters it should learn to stay away. the other thing is automatic lights, with the sensor, i dont know if you already have one but we found this to work in getting rid of hedgehogs that we used to get in the garden. Not that we had a problem with them, but our dog loves to play with animals but he tended to bark at them and scare them silly so it was better to have them run off.
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Automatic lights would only be a temporary solution. The Fox would soon pluck up the courage to return. I suspect the same with the BB gun. I think you can get little ultrasound trasmitters that you can put in your garden to keep foxes, dogs and cats away. Failing that I've heard they don't like the smell of diesel....
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Thanks for the suggestions chaps. It sits & pulls faces at me but I don't think it will stay still long enough for me to hit it with a BB gun. I don't like the idea of flooding my garden with DERV so that leaves the electronic route. I've been thinking of trying one of those ultrasound gizmos so this has made up my mind. I'll get one ASAP & report back later.
Amazing the things you can get help on here.
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There are websites that show you how to make your own flamethrowers Doug, you could have a little barbie
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There are websites that show you how to make your own flamethrowers Doug, you could have a little barbie
Thanks Mark but I've heard of people burning their houses down doing things like that, especially if the back garden is flooded with DERV. Way too risky.
I'd rather leave the bloomin' fox alone.
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There are websites that show you how to make your own flamethrowers Doug, you could have a little barbie
...or you could get a hound or two - I'm not sure if its illegal if its in your back garden though...
I've never thought if I have foxes in our back garden - it could be what makes the rabbits thump at night, although we think that's cats...
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...or you could get a hound or two - I'm not sure if its illegal if its in your back garden though...
I have enough problems with the bloomin' fox. I don't want hounds or any more 4-legged critters. I'm tryin' to get rid of 'em not start a menagerie.
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I've never thought if I have foxes in our back garden - it could be what makes the rabbits thump at night, although we think that's cats...
Not sure rabbits are too worried about cats. Maybe you'd better get tooled up just in case. Order an air strike by some of your mates. This is getting serious.
PS. That AAC lieutenant (if he's still a lieutenant) could come & hurl pizzas at it.
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Actually, if you want a fool proof method then get yourself a Llama. They're very territorial and will keep the fox away with out fail. Some farmers use them to protect sheep and lambs from foxes and other preditors.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
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Llamas now is it?
Have you seen the size of them things? Not very good-tempered either. They like spitting at you when you least expect it. That's not very nice. While I'm about it why don't I get an elephant & done with? They could all become jolly good friends & live happily ever afterwards with the fox & its complete family in my back garden while poor Hagar is forced out of his beloved home for keeping an illegal zoo.
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How about wearing a big red jacket (I'm sure you can mug a Chelsea Pensioner
) and playing with an instrument from the brass section of a band?
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PS. That AAC lieutenant (if he's still a lieutenant) could come & hurl pizzas at it.
I say make the bugger a General...
(at least then he'd be on a par with an RAF Squadron Leader...)
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Hmmm. I told you I'm not violent. I don't usually go around mugging Chelsea Pensioners or anyone else. I could afford to buy a red jacket for whatever good that would do & I don't have enough puff to blow a brass instrument of any description. S'pose I could invite the local hunt round but they never catch anything anyway. Then I would have to fork out for the stirrup cups & whatever else. Probably do more damage than the fox ever did. Any more bright ideas?
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A pet tiger?
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You could just stick a lifesize cardboard cutout of Mr Fozzer in your garden, that might work
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A pet tiger?
That's more like it.
Mind you I couldn't afford to feed it & it might eat me when it got hungry. Then there's all that tiger poop to clear up. Not such a good idea methinks.
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Have you considered planting a few landmines? That would do the trick.
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Have you considered planting a few landmines? That would do the trick.
But all that digging
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You could just stick a lifesize cardboard cutout of Mr Fozzer in your garden, that might work
Now why didn't I think of that? It might just work. Good thinkin' Craig.
Just one teeny problem. How do I go about acquiring the aforesaid life-sized cardboard cutout? Do you think they have them on Ebay? ???
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Do you think they have them on Ebay?
Not fully clothed
the things that man does to make a few quid.
i'm sure if you ask him nicely he will provide you with a nice copy though.
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Not fully clothed
the things that man does to make a few quid.
i'm sure if you ask him nicely he will provide you with a nice copy though.
That might not be such a good idea now I come to think of it. I have the neighbours & their grandchildren to consider. Far too scary. It would even scare me if I forgot it was there.
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I suppose it could be considered cruel and unusual punishment under international law? and cruelty to animals according to the RSPCA.
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I'm sure you're right. Let me try this electronic gizmo & see how I get on. I can try the other suggestions if that doesn't work. I rather like the idea of landmines. How would I go about procuring some? Nah, forget it. Knowing me I would forget they were there & blow myself into orbit. I prefer it down here.
Once the fox is dealt with I have other problems you might be able to help with. Know anything about ant's nests?
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Doug just watch some episodes of Road Runner, I'm sure you'll find some inspiration
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How would I go about procuring some? Nah, forget it. Knowing me I would forget they were there & blow myself into orbit. I prefer it down here.
Try here - you can at least buy a Sea Harrier...
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Hmmm. As I remember that fox or coyote whatever it is keeps getting blown up on a regular basis. Then he reappears as large as life the following week. This ACME outfit doesn't fill me with confidence somehow.
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Thanks Charlie. Much as would like my own Sea Harrier my garden isn't exactly Shoreham Airport. They would also have to knock my home down to get it in there.
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On a serious note, they have some quite good hardware too - a few weeks back they had some decent looking 20" monitors for about £85...
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Erm....anyone in for the purchase of those Harriers? Doug? Woody? Mark?
The missing parts shouldn't be a problem. The local black arms market should have 'em all - and a little more.
I'll build the first Harrier capable of carrying nukes! *evilgrin*
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Ah well. That was fun while it lasted. I enjoyed if nobody else did but I'm exhausted with all that laughing & trying to keep up with you lot. I'll let you know what happens with this darned fox. Maybe we can get back on topic now. That's if I can figure out what the topic was. ???
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I didn't read the whole thread, so I don't have a clue.
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Erm....anyone in for the purchase of those Harriers? Doug? Woody? Mark?
Do you have anywhere to keep them? I'm a tad short of space with all these blasted animals all over the place.
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Hmm...we've got a lot of small mountains (or big hills) around here, with forests and quite lonely areas. How about that?
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Do you have anywhere to keep them? I'm a tad short of space with all these blasted animals all over the place.
We've got a little museum at work (couple of Phantoms, JP, Hunter)...
I reckon that fox is watching you now Doug, being cunning and all that....
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Ant's... Well, Amdro has always been the natural solution. Although officially it's for fire ants, and I'm not quite sure if it's sold in Her Majesty's land.
I've heard mixed results about compusive measures like gasoline, oil, etc. If it doesn't work, surely you're doing something to the earth.
Generally, an ant nest is 10 times deeper than it is wide, and the Queen is (if I remember correctly) 2/3 of the way down. If you can find anything to wreak havoc that far below the earth, that should do it.
Failing that, ask the Royal Navy for a bombardment, or me for a good Texas-chili-bomb run!
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Going over some of my insect books.
If I read this correctly, the Queen is in fact at the bottom of the nest. You might want to cover the nest in shade as much as possible, to reduce the sunlight, thus temperature, of the entire nest. Not too much else to be had, as most of these books were made to inform about insects,
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LOL yes now wheres the local zoo. I always use boiling water from the kettle on ants nests, it seems to work and if you do it a couple of times it should clear em out,
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Thanks again for the advice. They seem to be fresh out of aardvarks around here. Might be just as well as 'm rapidly running out of space to keep all these animals. Maybe I'm better of with the ones I started with.
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Quicklime for the ants Doug.
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Right-o. Thanks Woody. I shall definitely try that.
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To avoid 1 fox and associated problems Doug's garden would now contain (if he followed advice from Sim V:
2 Fox Hounds
1 Llama
1 Tiger
1 Aardvark
1 Lifesize cut out of the Fozzer (naked)
1 Harrier
Several landmines
This will deal with the "infestation of fox" by ensuring that it cannot fit in the garden if nothing else.
Sorry mate, I feel somewhat responsible.
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Not your fault Will. I started the ball rolling & it gathered its own momentum. At least it shows what a helpful & ingenious lot of people we have around here. One thing still puzzles me. I still don't know what this thread was supposed to be about.
???
Hasn't done badly as it runs to 3 pages so far. That's far more than most of my topics ever reach. When I get involved it usually kills a topic stone dead.
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To avoid 1 fox and associated problems Doug's garden would now contain (if he followed advice from Sim V:
2 Fox Hounds
1 Llama
1 Tiger
1 Aardvark
1 Lifesize cut out of the Fozzer (naked)
1 Harrier
Several landmines
This will deal with the "infestation of fox" by ensuring that it cannot fit in the garden if nothing else.
Sorry mate, I feel somewhat responsible.
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You know, i dont know why but i cant help but laugh every time i read that list:).
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You know, i dont know why but i cant help but laugh every time i read that list:).
LOL Don't forget the elephant.
I know that was my suggestion but if it's worth doing we might as well make a decent job of it.
It occurred to me that if I planted a few landmines the garden would dig itself.
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if you can fit an elephant and a Llama into your garden you can set up your own petting zoo. Make yourself a few quid from it:). If you can set the landmines in the front yard that'll stop any unwanted visitors, like the bill bringing postman, or those hooligan kids:) give family and friends a map to where you placed the mines of course
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A strategically placed landmine would work beautifully on the ants nest too.l
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A strategically placed landmine would work beautifully on the ants nest too.l
I had considered that Eno but I don't think it would do my lawn much good. With that darned vixen peeing all over the shop it's not exactly in prime condition now. That's what started all this in the first place.
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Hows about an Apache - very good for moving targets - more ethical than landmines...
I suppose poison is very much out of the question Doug...
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Nerve gas might do it. I think the best way out of this is for me to move out & let all these animals have the run of the place. I can take up residence in a nice little studio flat somewhere with no garden to worry about. That will fix the blighters. 8) Only problem with that is all those sh1tehawks around here that think they own the territory & enjoy terrorising the tourists. More like something out of a Hitchcock film - or maybe it was Benny Hill.
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My Little Friend by Benny Hill.
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This topic has gone from slightly strange, to completely surreal
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This topic has gone from slightly strange, to completely surreal
Sums me up perfectly. Have you only just realised that?
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I didnt realise it could be quite this bad. Is bad the right word for it? far reaching maybe? Differant? possibly.
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Now you can see the problems my neighbours have. I feel quite sorry for 'em.
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PS. I don't really.
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Keeps them on their toes right? Which is a good thing in theory as it keeps their minds active.
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They never quite figured me out. Are you surprised? 8)
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Not at all
then again would someone like Frued have been able to?
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Well, I do my best. I keep tellin' 'em I'm the one that's normal but I have a sneakin' feeling they don't believe me. My concience is clear. What more can I do? 8)
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Landmines in their yard? Get new neighbours that way. when you get new neighbours and they ask what happened to the last lot, you just smile and wink. That way they will not talk to you, so you dont have to worry whos right
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I don't like to do that. I have all these animals in my back garden to think about. The noise of them landmines going off at all hours would probably startle them & that would never do.
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I don't like to do that. I have all these animals in my back garden to think about. The noise of them landmines going off at all hours would probably startle them & that would never do.
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Well after all that it might be a good idea to get this thread back on topic. That's if I can figure out what the topic was in the first place. Will seems to have posted it for me & left me to it. I find the subject line confusing as it's open to several different interpretations I never was too sure what it actually means. ???
The Famous Small Garden Animals of History Debate
Now does that mean a debate about famous small garden animals of history or a famous debate about aforesaid historical animals? I must confess to being a tad confused as I can't think of any famous historical garden animals offhand. Are these supposed to be real -life historical animals or famous garden animals of a fictional nature? I was thinking more along the lines of Mr. Toad, Ratty & Mole but I'm not too sure they would be classed as garden animals. Then there's Winnie the Pooh & Yogi Bear but I think the same applies to them. I'm sure you can see my predicament here.
Will, if you're out there I could do with some help.
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Well specifically it was about whether various people were moles, ferrets or other small garden animals and should we bother debating it.
For example:
Stalin - Rat
Mr Blairs' Wifes' paternal Grandfather - Ferret
Etcetera
PS it doesn't seem so funny after the last five pages
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Ah. Welcome back Will.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I obviously got the wrong end of the stick, as usual. I suppose that my fox could be classed as quite famous now as a lot more people know about it since reading this thread. Whether it's historical or not I have no way of knowing as I never thought to ask how old it is.
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Maybe a bit late in the day but you could use plain and simple wee wee (big cat is best but your own works aswell apparently).
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Yes Doug go out and pee in your back yard, that'll take you back a few years i bet
Then watch as your neighbours really do have you carted off by the crazy squad
Great suggestion Town
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LOL I think that peeing in my garden would give my neighbours the best chance they will ever have to get rid of me.
Thanks for the tip. I might try it if the electronic gizmo doesn't work. Whether my own pee will do less damage to my lawn than that fox is debatable.
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I thought you wanted to get rid of the fox because of pee, is more pee really the answer?
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