Simviation Forum - cfs war emergency power (WEP)

Feb 9^th, 2005 at 3:20pm

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Well I'am a first timer. So here's my first question?
Where inside cfs is the WEP option hidden? I've worked with AIR files, aircraft.cfg's, dp's & models but I haven't found the WEP option anywhere?

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Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2005 at 4:40pm

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Hi,

In CSF2 it's in the airfile under the engine section. (501)

Hope this helps.

B24Guy

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Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2005 at 5:43pm

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Well I wish it was that easy to find in CFS1. If you know
where it is in CFS1 please pass it on to me! Thanks Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2005 at 10:29pm

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Actually I looked at a cfs2 air file and it's very similiar to a cfs file. The engine section deals with powerplant description including supercharger performance. But this is not the WEP system. The WEP sysytem is either a water or water/methanol injection system, that typically adds about a 15 - 20% hp boost while injected.
It increases the compression ratio dramatically and this is why it can't stay on to long!

Anyway it's coded into cfs some other place so I'm still looking for someone who know where?

Thanks, for any suggestions. Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 7:26am

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In CFS2, it's in record 505, under Emergency Power type=, which determines whether it's water injection or other method of WEP.
Then you adjust the next two entries, "Emergency Power Pressure Change rate", and "Emergency Power manifold pressure Increase" to determine the effect that WEP has on the engine.

That's exactly the record you should be using for CFS1, since it is labelled "505 Engine CFS/FS2000 Piston Engine".

However, you may have a third party aircraft that uses entry 500, "Engine Piston Engine (FS98/CFSAI)" for the aircraft and has no 505 entry, in which case you can't have WEP.

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Reply #5 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 10:01am

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Thanks for the help. I can now see why I can't find it!

The FDE (flight dynamics editor) I'm using does not show those Section 505 entries.

So if I don't see them I can't edit them. I'm using Abacus FDE V15.0.21. Is there a way to get a more comprehensive FD editor.

Again thanks for any suggestions. Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 6:47pm

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Try AirEd from the utilities section here. http://www.simviation.com/cfs2utilities1.htm

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Reply #7 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 7:03pm

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Oh, thanks so much! Now I've got TWO Air Editors. Hey the combination of them both makes a good, fairly comprehensive EDITOR.

Thanks again, happy flying. Grin

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Reply #8 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 7:06pm

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My apologies,I should have made clear I was discussing AirEd, as I believed the previous correspondent was discussing.
The Abacus editor works, but the entries are different. On balance, I prefer AirEd.

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Reply #9 - Feb 13^th, 2005 at 3:07am

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Try AirEd from the utilities section here. http://www.simviation.com/cfs2utilities1.htm

I use AirEd. Seldom ever look at at CFS1 air files though...

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Reply #10 - Feb 13^th, 2005 at 1:32pm

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Well they both seem to have there strenghts and weaknesses.

Like aired doesn't list several important prop-plane variables: Prop effect on elevator, elavator response, prop effect on rudder ... etc in the flight dynamics section.

And of course fdeditor doesn't list WEP and other things.

That's why I need both of them!!!!! Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 6:18am

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There's another editor too, that opens up the mysteries in CFS2 a little more. Called something like Aircraft Container manager. Hagar will know, and he'll probably be cruising past any second to disagree with me over something Wink

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Reply #12 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 7:10am

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Hagar just flew by and confirmed that it's called Aircraft Container Manager:

http://www.aircraftmanager.com/

But it's now gone Payware.

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Reply #13 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 8:57am

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IndioBlack has more knowledge on CFS flight dynamics in his little finger than I will ever know. It depends what you wish to do & how far you wish to go with it. I think that the combination of AirEd & FDE should do everything most people will ever need. Here's all the AIR file editors I know about. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hsors/FS_Soft/fsairfile.html

Please bear in mind that some of these aren't strictly AIR file editors but edit the Aircraft.cfg entries. They're intended for FS2002/4 & might not be suitable for CFS. There are various updated INI files for AirEd which you might or might not need. The AvHistory site also has a special workbook for creating realistic flight dynamics. This works in conjunction with AirEd.

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Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2005 at 10:11pm

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Hey, thanks for all the suggestions. The workbook/spreadsheet is just what I've been looking for!!

Thanks for all the help!! Grin

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Reply #15 - Apr 1^st, 2005 at 1:48am

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I'm entering a bit late on this, & can't compare operating features of different .air editing programs, but (keeping the one with the missing entry open while opening other files) I found an .air file that did have the entry I wanted, marked it for export, then imported it into the .air file that was missing it.; then edited as needed.

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