Hey

What do you use to paint aircraft?
I don't have a clue, i tried paint but that was too hard. And everything i find on simviation is too complicated and needs paint experience.

cheers
forfun

If you find MS Paint to hard, there's no sense trying any other free program.

The simplest - (open texture, create repaint variant) - would then be Abacus' FS Repaint.

When you say you found paint too hard, do you mean hard to use, or hard to achieve the desired results?

I use DXT BMP and Photoshop.

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I'll take your word on that. I prefer not to use it at all.

I think the whole point is that whichever graphics editor(s) you choose, it's important to have some idea of the basic features & functions and know how to use the program before attempting to repaint textures. A little artistic talent wouldn't go amiss either. I know the basics & can teach people how it's done but I will never make a decent repainter if I live for another 50 years - which is highly doubtful.

It's also important to be familiar with the standard image file formats & special FS texture formats. There's plenty of repainting tutes posted here at SimV & other popular FS sites. Whichever sim you intend your repaints for (except perhaps FS98/CFS1) DXTBmp is essential for converting the textures from & to the appropriate format.

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I'm not sure Martin Wright gets the credit he deserves for creating all his wonderful free utilities. For example; whatever would we do without DXTBmp?

I can claim a tiny contribution to the development of DXTBmp. When CFS2 was first released someone mailed me asking how to open the new texture format. I had no idea so naturally mailed MW & asked him. He didn't have CFS2 at the time so asked me to send him a couple of sample textures. Within a couple of hours he sent me a lttle DOS application to try. He even took the trouble to explain how to use it as I was useless with DOS at the time. (I'm not much better now but I know enough to be dangerous. ) It naturally worked fine & after a few tweaks it became the first version of DXTBmp.

I'm sure someone else would have asked him anyway but I'm very proud of that. 8)

PS. I almost forgot. Thanks Martin.

Hey ppl

When i said i found paint to hard, i meant it was too hard to acces the features that i thought i needed.

After posting this topic yesterday, i found that i have Adobe Imageready, i started using it and i found that i prefer it to photoshop.

What do you guys think of Imageready?, Is there any cons that make it unsuitable for repainting?

cheers again
forfun

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At the risk of sounding like a commercial, Abacus' FS Repaint allows you to open a create a repaint variant (modifies the aircraft.cfg file for you) copying the "parent" textures to the new variant folder (unless, of course, you want to change the existing textures) and edit (paint) the new textures, inlcuding the alpha channels, etc. without having to use one program for image conversion, one program for editing, another conversion to/from alpha channel, etc.

In addition, by using the default editor, you get to see your changes - as you make them.

Granted, there many who prefer to do the conversion and use "high end" graphics programs, but FS Repaint allows you to export the texture to your graphics program and bring it back so you can see the changes to your iamges on the model, without starting up or running FS2004 in the background.

FS Repaint is a commercial product, but there is a free trial version.

just googled for a link, should be ok.

http://www.flightsimdownloads.com/pub/AbacusFSRepaintDemo.exe

fs repaint homepage: http://www.abacuspub.com/repaint/

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Hear hear. Absolutely dead right Doug. Useful for childish daubings (let your grandchildren play with it on your old PC) but absolutely useless for any practical purpose whatsoever. Let alone a demanding job like repainting.

If you're interested in learning to paint - be warned, it's not just a 'pick it up in 5 minutes job' if you want to do it properly with layers, alpha channels for transparency and reflections, different types of extended bmps and so on - get hold of Pixia if you can't afford or don't want to buy PaintShop Pro or Photoshop. And if you become a bit more serious you'll need more. I also use CorelDraw for creating textures and I like Corel Photo-Paint for it's ability to create night texture lighting effects. Both of these are old versions though and didn't cost a fortune.

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I beg to differ. I created this in paint, it took me a few days, but I dont have anything else to do at work.

PS it looks like crap after resizing, and converting to JPG.

you can do fading colors, but its a B-word, as for transparent layer, you got me there. the fact is paint wasnt designed for repainting aircraft, I was only arguing its worth as a graphics program. that is just a pic, not a repaint of an FS plane... and posting out of sheer boredome...

lol
i reckon photoshop and psp are the best, i only use photoshop cos i found a tutorial that teaches you, lol

I have both, and to be honest, i thik photoshop is a better program, but perhaps psp is easier to use.

thats only my opinion and i havn't really mastered painting yet lol

complaetely off topic, but how do you paste images in photoshop without creating a new layer? I want to paste the image into the current layar, it doesnt work

any ideas?

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Hmmmm..I see.

I didn't use Paint for this..



or this..



Please believe that I'm not trying to brag or get one over anyone but someone just starting has asked a serious question and needs a proper answer.

Which is that Paint CANNOT be used for serious painting. If you want to do the job right you must get the right tools. And one of them IS NOT MS PAINT ???

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your probably right though about using it for repainting.

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It is possible - by "thinking" in layers!  Of course, I'll be the first to admit that layering is the method of choice.

It is possible to get half-decent results using Paint, but yeah, layers are a repainters best friend

Done in Paint and Pixia



Awesome repaints, RollerBall 8)

Regards,
Stratobat

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Lmao

Most of it was done in Paint, the blending was done using the Blur tool in Pixia though

The wires on the top of the panel next to the two plates were done using the Free Bezier tool

All in all, as a freeware program, Pixia's pretty good. The only problem I've found with it so far is that it doesn't open 32 Bit textures. You need to convert them by either saving them as 24 Bit in Paint or by using Imagetool.

Regards,
Stratobat

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I have PSP

I just used Pixia for that project to learn how to use the program. There aren't a lot of tutorials out there for Pixia (Especially with regards to creating FS textures), so you need to wade through the program bit by bit on your own.

Regards,
Stratobat

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LMAO... Classic

Regards,
Stratobat

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lol