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XP for Fozzer, despite his love affair with '98?
*** This poll has now closed ***
Aye
19 (59.4%)
Nay
1 (3.1%)
Bugger off
4 (12.5%)
Leave him in the dark ages
6 (18.8%)
Dunno
1 (3.1%)
XP?
0 (0.0%)
98?
0 (0.0%)
None of the above, go away!
1 (3.1%)
Total votes: 32
Considering Fozzers got XP.
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Reply #60 -
Dec 6
th
, 2004 at 6:39pm
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Hey all, the big debate over registration is false. Windows XP does not have an exclamation point that tells you to register...
this exclamation point is there to tell you that you need to ACTIVATE it...meaning, simply verify that your copy of XP is indeed legal. this can be done in a matter of seconds via the internet, or minutes via the phone, and of course you have 30 days to do so.
I believe that computers shipped with XP will already have this taken care of as most places will just "image" together a new drive for a new system.
Keep in mind this is the case for Windows XP home/pro, there is another version out there called Corporate edition if you are willing to pay tons of money which doesn't even have this problem anymore, however it is primarily designed for major institutions and such..
And as for the reinstallation of XP, I've reinstalled it probably 30 times since I got it a few years back without a problem. I have upgraded motherboard, CPU, graphics card, etc. the whole lot from a 350Mhz to what I'm running today.
Only time I had a problem was when I had to reset the cmos during a full install. Windows came up and the time was wrong so what do you do? reset the time! Well of course the dates wrong too, reset it as well!
as one can imagine this put me beyond my 30 day trial period and I got a big box telling me that I had to call microsoft and activate over the phone...typical automated system flagged me and I ended up talking to a MS staff eprson who spoke arabic...
After telling him that i just upgraded he gave me a new ID and I was up and running!
Signed,
A happy XP user!
Edit: XP will give you the option of registering during activation, if I remember right there is a checkmark box that can click/un-click..
Simple as that..
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Reply #61 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 2:41am
Paz
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I just happened to come across this and thought it fit well with the topic at hand:
Why Switch from Windows Me to XP?
QUESTION: My father, a senior citizen, has been using Windows ME for the past few years, while I've been using WinXP Home Edition for the past two.
He's had a number of annoying problems with ME, and though I've tried encouraging him to make the switch to XP, we live too far apart for me to help him load XP. As well, he needs convincing of the advantages to switching to XP. Consequently, he's been reluctant to make the switch.
What would you say to him, to convince him to making the switch ? -- Dave W.
ANSWER: No matter their age, most folks are more comfortable with the "devil they know" - that is, even if they're having problems with an operating system or software application, they're reluctant to invest the time and trouble it takes to learn a whole new one.
There are several good reasons to switch from a Windows 9x-based operating system (which Millennium Edition is) to XP, which is based on the much more secure NT code but, unlike earlier NT-based operating systems that were made primarily for business use, is also easy for consumers to use. In today's virus and worm infested, attack prone computing environment, security is probably the number one reason to make the move. XP includes security features (such as the more secure NTFS file system, a built-in firewall, and many more) that ME doesn't have.
After security, reliability is a good reason to switch. XP is more stable than any 9x-based OS because of the kernel (the core operating system files) on which it runs.
Another big issue is support. Most of Microsoft's focus in providing updates and fixes is on their current OS, which is XP. For example, the improvements to Internet Explorer that are included in XP Service 2 aren't available for IE running on other operating systems. These include security and convenience features (such as the built-in popup blocker).
Your dad might have heard horror stories from people who upgraded and experienced hardware incompatibilities. I'd recommend that before he upgrades, he download the XP Upgrade Advisor from the Microsoft Web site (
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/advisor.mspx
). This is a program he can run to make sure his hardware and software are compatible with XP.
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Reply #62 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 7:34am
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Nicely said Paz!
I think Paul's in a rut and he can't get his wheels out...
The weird thing is - He's actually got it - it's not that he even needs to buy it.
Paul, truly it is so much better and isn't any harder than 98. It's actually easier!
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Reply #63 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 10:16am
Hagar
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All joking aside & I'm sure most of Paul's comments are as tongue-in-cheek as mine.
Neither of us is half as daft as we make out & in my case there are perfectly good reasons for not updating to this miraculous OS named Windows XP. I'm sure that Paul has equally valid reasons.
Number one is the cost which I can ill-afford on a fixed income. Simple as that.
Number 2 is my antiquated system which already does all I need perfectly well so why would I wish to change anything? I doubt that installing XP would be worth the bother as it's unlikely to improve system performance for the use I put it to.
Number 3. It's quite likely my old video card will be incompatible & there's no way of getting updated drivers for it. Better the devil you know.
Number 4 is just as important, bearing in mind that I'm not made of money. Despite what anyone says, WinXP has to be registered in order to use it, whether this be online or over the telephone. This is a well-known fact. AFAIK the registration covers installation to one machine only. If & when I decide to purchase a brand new machine I'll be forced to have WinXP or whichever new OS they dream up to replace it. There's doesn't seem much point in having to purchase the darned thing twice.
PS. As for extra security, I seem to recall that, due to an oversight, WinXP is far more vulnerable to viruses & hackers than Win98 ever was.
http://www.tunexp.com/news/windows-story-324.html
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Reply #64 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 3:14pm
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Well Doug, Paul
HAS
XP. He doesn't need to buy it. If hi sim can run on there then sure can XP. Infact its so glaringly obvious to me why its better that I'm wondering if there is other reasons other than Paul great love for it.
If he didn't want to buy it or couldn't afford it then yes, I'd understand the laugh, but he has it!
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Reply #65 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 3:21pm
Hagar
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Quote:
Well Doug, Paul
HAS
XP. He doesn't need to buy it. If hi sim can run on there then sure can XP. Infact its so glaringly obvious to me why its better that I'm wondering if there is other reasons other than Paul great love for it.
If he didn't want to buy it or couldn't afford it then yes, I'd understand the laugh, but he has it!
You're missing my point. Maybe the crafty old chap is planning to treat himself to a brand-spankin' new, all singing-&-dancing rocket powered machine with all the bells & whistles for Christmas.
If this is the case he's naturally saving his WinXP for that. It wouldn't exactly be sensible to install it to the old one now would it?
Of course, I could be completely wrong about this, as I usually am. He could just be a typically awkward old fogey like me.
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Reply #66 -
Dec 7
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Well Paul, If Doug has in fact got the right idea then I might be interested in buying your old one for a suitably small amount... lol... Is it true?
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Reply #67 -
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eno
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The point Doug and Paul are missing ........... once purchased the licence agreement only says that it has to be installed on one machine at a time ......... Should you upgrade to a new machine you just transfer everything across and phone up for a new code at no extra cost, provided you reformat the old machine with another operating system........ In theory (and I'm not condoning this) you could have it on several machines. Only one of them would be legitimate ....... all of them could be updated with the patches and service packs.
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Reply #68 -
Dec 7
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, 2004 at 6:34pm
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If anyone buys a new machine, XP is already going to be pre-installed.
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Reply #69 -
Dec 7
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Quote:
If anyone buys a new machine, XP is already going to be pre-installed.
Not if I get it custom-built to my own specs by my usual supplier. However, in the unlikely event that I do get a new machine I would naturally ask him to install WinXP in order to run the latest hardware. Until that time I'm quite happy with my current "old faithful" just as it is.
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Reply #70 -
Dec 8
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, 2004 at 7:46am
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OMG, I just figured Fozzer out!
He's SCARED!
That's ok Fozzer, I'm scared of big bikes.......
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Reply #71 -
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Quote:
OMG, I just figured Fozzer out!
He's SCARED!
That's ok Fozzer, I'm scared of big bikes.......
...true...
...!
Nothing frightens me more than having to 'phone Uncle Bill, (on the wrong side of the "Pond"), and get him out of his bath, to ask him for his permission to install, and use, his favourite Super-Dooper new operating system.....
....
....!
With my "old" Win '98 I don't have to go through all that flippin' rigmarole...
...
....!
...and it saves me an expensive 'phone call... 8)...!
...and you know how much I love all my occasional system crashes, etc... 8)...
...!
Cheers Congo...
...!
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Reply #72 -
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OMG! What have I started (again!)
Great debate I've started it seems.
On the point of the registration bit, I hav'nt bothered with it,. I expect the walls to fall in at any moment.....
Oh, BTW, my '98 using computer cabbage of a sister asked me to install XP for her the other day!
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Reply #73 -
Dec 8
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, 2004 at 5:02pm
Ben_M_K
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This is hillarious!
I'm mostly with you Fozzer, I like that old crap.
I sold my Xbox because it was just to complex.
But really, you should get XP!!!
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Fozz, if you install XP I recommend you burn your aboslute must save data and do a complete upgrade, not just an over write. Most problems people have experienced on XPem from the 98-XP over write upgrade. It doesn't work that well and still leaves 98 ghosts. I found out from experience. Its well worth it to spring for a few packs of cdrw and spend the time backing up and then do a complete re-format/XP install.
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