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Nov 18th, 2004 at 1:28am

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Half life 2 is out.

What more needs to be said.

Get the game, an x800 xt and get going.
 

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Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2004 at 2:11pm

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Half life 2 is out.

What more needs to be said.

Get the game, an x800 xt and get going.


If it doesn't contain the option for "Invincibility" and "Infinite Weapons" then it's wasted on me.... Cry.... Wink... Grin...!

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Cheers all... Grin...!

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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2004 at 7:34am
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Methinks my nickname for online games ("First2Die") would fit you just fine,Paul. Grin
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2004 at 2:27pm

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I got HL-2 the same day I got Pacific Fighters during my vist to the local Best Buy. Grin

HL-2 is simply amazing and a must have for any serious gamer.

Pacific Fighters is also a very good   combat sim and  worthy of any fiight simmer's attention. Smiley

Both titles has raised the bar in their fields and developers have an even higher standard to shoot for now.

 

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Reply #4 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 3:19pm

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This looks like a good reason for me NOT getting it...>>>

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"Bizarrely though, Draconian anti-piracy measures mean you have to be online (and have the disc in the DVD drive), even to play the single-player game.

That’s annoying,...."

So...
No good for us 56K, Evenings and Weekends only, dial-up, 2-hour cut-off types.... Angry..... Cry.....!

Cheers all...!

Paul.....back to Quake II.... Wink...!

 

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Reply #5 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 7:18pm

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No CD disc in my computer.

But I do have to be connected to Steam to start the game up.

After that I do not think you still have to be connected, not really sure. Will try later when I can get back on my other computer....
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 11:40pm

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This looks like a good reason for me NOT getting it...>>>

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"Bizarrely though, Draconian anti-piracy measures mean you have to be online (and have the disc in the DVD drive), even to play the single-player game.

That’s annoying,...."

So...
No good for us 56K, Evenings and Weekends only, dial-up, 2-hour cut-off types.... Angry..... Cry.....!

Cheers all...!

Paul.....back to Quake II.... Wink...!



Actually, you do not have to be online to play HL-2
There is an "offline mode" avalible as long as meet a couple of simple configurations that are the default anyway.

The way you access "offline mode" is to simply disable (temporarily) your net connection. Wink

 

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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 2:03am

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Thats wrong information.

Once installed, no cd or internet needed.

Though the first time you play, you need an internet to activate.
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 9:00am

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If installed via Steam...
You can not disconect it.

Tried last night, and a warning screen pops up that a game is in process and can not be disconnected while game is in process..  Angry
 

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Reply #9 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 9:37am

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...Naughty publishers... Roll Eyes...!

Imagine...
Dad has just bought Half Life 2 as a surprise Christmas present for little Johnny.
Christmas comes...
Little Johnny opens his present, installs his new game...big smiles...!
Notice: "Warning. You need an Internet connection to play this game".

Little Johnny: " Dad. What's an Internet Connection?"
Dad: " I don't know. We haven't got one of those!"...

Result: Lots of tears, and a trip back to the shop for a refund.... Cry...!

Un-happy Christmas.

Cheers all... 8)...!

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Reply #10 - Nov 27th, 2004 at 1:33pm

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Result: Lots of tears, and a trip back to the shop for a refund.... 

Sorry No refunds on opened games !    Wink
 

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Reply #11 - Nov 29th, 2004 at 11:44am

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Got HL-2 the other day. Great game!! There is an "Offline" option that is available, BUT, only after you go online and follow the instructions. Took me forever on dial up, you have to create an account, register the game. When this is done, the game files, STEAM and HALF LIFE 2, get updated. If you look you can see they are "Decoding" the game files. Once this is all done, you then have the "Offline" mode Enabled.

Me thinks this is their way of preventing "Piracy". What a hassle, but this is what it has come to I guess.

Still a very good game and well worth the hassle IMHO.
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2004 at 1:19pm

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It is absoluty their way of preventing piracy!

Just last week Valve/Steam canceled over 20,000 steam accounts due to fraud/piracy with more fraudlent HL-2  registrations/steam accounts being canceled every day.

I`m afraid this type of online verification will become the norm as developers/publishers realize the succes Valve is having with weeding out pirates.
Granted, they might not get all of them but, a least the majority.

The alternative migh be that developers will just decide it's not worth it anymore  to develope games for the PC due to piracy.

I wouldn`t be surprised it FS-10 has some sort of online registration/unocking to prevent piracy.
You need to be online anyway if you want real world weather.

 
 

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Reply #13 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 5:34am

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All the more reason for me not to buy also Wink
I don't go and spend $50 just to sit and wait on downloads or registrations etc, it isn't right. I don't mind going online and registering my software but , when it comes to having to download more "special stuff" and them wanting every bit of info on you and your family that is where I pull the plug, if that is the way they want to do it then don't sell CDs anymore and make all games downloadable. Of course most won't buy then because they won't have a back up and won't wait for Gig downloads.
This is all the same as false advertising just like "minimum requirements", they write stuff on the box making it appear your computer can run the game so you buy it, it isn't until it is too late (you open it) that you realize the minimum won't even boot the game. But now your screwed and can't take it back, I have a lot of software just sitting here that I can't use becasue I met or exceeded minimum but not by enough to use it.
All these companies are doing is losing money by trying to fight piracy but the biggest losers are the innocent and the pirates will be playing away while I sit and try to get mine too work. It is the same now with many music cds, they have new "piracy" stuff on them and those CDs won't even work on my player in my car! and if I want to listen to them on my computer I need to be connected, fill out a lease on my soul and wait through all the crap as they scan my computer and try to install spyware. NOT WORTH IT!

If this becomes the big thing then I'll stick with my older games and sims, and listen to the music I have enjoyed for years and let the big companies go bankrupt Wink

If they are going to require you to be online, download extra software just to use it etc. Then it should be clearly labled that on the OUTSIDE of the box, same goes for realistic "minimums", not too mention they should then lower the cost of the software by at least $30 Wink Or allow returns when "Little Johnny" finally realizes that he won't be able to play the game he waited for Wink

They also need to clearly label games that only work on a DVD drive!!! Been screwed by that also.
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 1:37pm

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It should be remembered that for all of us lucky/rich so-and-so's, there are millions of folks out there who buy games software but do not have/cannot afford the Internet...  Roll Eyes...!

I can remember playing computer games for many, many years before plunging in and spending lots of money to get an Internet and telephone connection... Shocked...!
...and the expense continues... Angry...!!

Many poor Mum's and Dad's, and school-boys/school-girls, cannot afford the luxury? of the Internet...or a telephone line.... Cry...!

I wonder how many youngsters actually pay the whole cost, (or even part), of their connection to the Internet, including the telephone line... Wink.... Wink.... Wink....?

Cheers all... Grin...!

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Reply #15 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 2:00pm

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It should be pointed out that "an internet connection" is clearly listed on the retail box as a requirement for runnin/playing the game.
Valve is being up front with this.

HL-2 also comes with "C S source" a miltiplayer internet game which obviously needs a net connection!

Piracy was not that much of a problem in the old days when there was no broadband connections or CD burners.
New times call for new measures if we want developers to keep working on PC game.
Would you want to work for 5 years on a program only to have it stolen/pirated when released?

Also. I find it had to believe that the vast majority who has a high end sys and pays $50 for a game does't have an internet connection.  Smiley
 

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Reply #16 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 3:07pm

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....Also. I find it had to believe that the vast majority who has a high end sys and pays $50 for a game does't have an internet connection.  Smiley



You would be surprised... Wink...!
For the likes of you and me, we can probably afford the never-ending cost of an Internet connection....
But...
Over this side of the Pond youngters are often given a cheap, often second-hand computer and a couple of games....
A one-off expense, paid for by Dad... 8)...!

....now if an Internet connection is required to start/play the game, then a continuous expense is involved...Monthly 'phone line rental charges plus Service provider monthly charges.....just to play a protected computer game... Angry...!
...and who is goingto pay for that... Roll Eyes...?

..as the Bank advert says on the 'tele..."There has to be another way..."...!

Cheers ...!

Paul....a rare breed, who can afford the expense...!


P.S.  I would love to know what percentage of the population of this planet actually have access to, and use, the internet.... 8)...!
...and what percentage doesn't... Roll Eyes....!

Out of just the eight households surrounding me, I am the only one with a computer, and use the Internet... Wink....!
Work that out as a percentage... 8)...!
 

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Reply #17 - Nov 30th, 2004 at 5:57pm

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Also. I find it had to believe that the vast majority who has a high end sys and pays $50 for a game does't have an internet connection.  Smiley


That strengthens my opinion.
I don't have a high end system or broadband, I don't play multiplayer, so I don't mind spending $50 for a good game and as a matter of fact have many that cost more than $50. So whether or not I can afford a high end system or a $50 game, internet access has nothing to do with it.

and as Fozzer stated the continuous expense after the original $50 could mean that in a years time the game could be costing you well into $100 +, especially if your ISP is the type that limits your time on the net per month and then charges per minute.

Now it wouldn't be too bad if you by the game and then go to a site to register it and then they email you key to unlock it, (again you need internet access) they could also install something in the software that would render it useless if you tried to crack it.
They don't need to have you buy it then go to a website and spend who knows how long to download more software just to be able to play it, which could also raise the price dependant on your ISP Wink

Something to think about is how much it cost to put a game on the shelf. It cost a company $10 for a game that includes advertising, packageing, manufacturing etc.
So take that $40 profit into consideration and now all the sudden it really doesn't seem right. I really don't think these software developers are really losing that much money do to piracy Wink Same goes for recording companies, it only cost them $1.25 to put a CD on the self.
 
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Reply #18 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 4:14am

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Yes, I can understand how some might not have a net connection, etc.

However "HL-2" is only one part of the HL-2 package.

There is  "Counter strike- source" which is an online, multiplayer game.

HL-2 multiplayer "deathmatch" was just released today and requires a net connection!
Also the SDK was released today allowing mods and new maps, etc.

Obviously, a broadband connection is prefered.

The HL-2 package simply requires a good net connection  to take advantage of all it's present and future features any way you look at it.
Those without one unfortunately it will have to pass on HL-2.

P.S.
keep in mind that one you register "HL-2" online you no longer need a net connection to play it.
However, you will not recieve any updates either.
 

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Reply #19 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 10:28am
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I wonder how many youngsters actually pay the whole cost, (or even part), of their connection to the Internet, including the telephone line... Wink.... Wink.... Wink....?


I don't pay a penny for telephone & internet.  Wink
 
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Reply #20 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 2:24pm

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I don't pay a penny for telephone & internet.  Wink


Innit fab to have a Mum and Dad who love you very much.... 8).... Grin...!

LOL...LOL...LOL... Grin...!

Cheers ATI... Grin....!

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Reply #21 - Dec 1st, 2004 at 5:43pm

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Ah poo!  I heard Half Life 2 had really good graphics, and was planning to get it (I didn't build a top o' the line system for mid range games), but if you think I'm going to open up my übercomputer to spyware/adware/viruses/hackers for one second, you've got another thing coming.  I download everything on the Dell, scan it for viruses, burn it to a disc, and then put it on the über.

I guess Half Life 2 is out. Angry

Oh well.  The fun of searching for demanding games is back on!  Considering I just beat Far Cry... Tongue
 

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Reply #22 - Dec 11th, 2004 at 9:42pm

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Its not really that bad.

I've never gotten a virus or trojan or anthing liek that.

You just have to be careful. HL2 is such an awesome game that its worth getting it no matter what. BTW, I bought the Steam versian (online download, its a better deal as you get more games) and have no problems with it.
 

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I had no land-line and thus no internet on my reasonably high end pc for over 12 months!
Alas, a change of address to a blacklisted house prevented BT or NTL from giving me a line, strangely enough, I'm now with NTL....  Undecided Roll Eyes

Also, a few high ish spec PC owning friends of mine only have mobiles, and again, have no 'net at home.

Valves "Steam" system sounds a pile of steaming ....  Wink

Tongue Tongue Tongue  Grin
 

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Reply #24 - Jan 30th, 2005 at 5:07pm
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Alright, got HL˛ now. I lended it from a friend of mine. I use the offline-mode, he uses the online-mode. Seems to work very well.

About the game itself: Stunning (really stunning!) graphics and it runs like a charm on my machine with a 1280*960 resolution, high details and 2*AA. The game itself is nice and brings out the true Half-Life feeling. I highly appreciate that the developers raised the amout of outdoor levels (awesome!) and there are some really crazy ideas, like Ravenholm. A city wiped out by aliens - except the priest who's a complete whacko (but very sympathetic). Grin
And everywhere around you: blood, zombies, dead bodies, blood, traps and oh, and did I mention blood?

Overall, I wouldn't rate this game as high as all the computer magazines did ( ~87% from me), but concerning graphics, HL˛ is a major milestone, especially because of the architecture, the water and the actors.

But the Steam issue is definately ruining Valve's reputation. Tongue
 
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Half life 2 is out.

What more needs to be said.

Get the game, an x800 xt and get going.


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Don't you like SLI then ???
 

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Reply #26 - Feb 5th, 2005 at 9:04pm

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Okay, just to clear something up.  A internet connection is only needed on HL2 to initiate the game (ie. plug into a friends connection and unlock the game).  Once you have done that you can close the STEAM connection.  When you try to start the game you will get a warning message saying that it couldn't connect to STEAM.  You have the option of then playing in offline mode.  HL2 definently looks awesome.  If Far Cry turns you on then this will finish you off.  Grin  If cutting edge is your thing then it's a must have.  I think it rules over Doom 3 and Far Cry.
 

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Reply #27 - Feb 6th, 2005 at 12:14am

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Don't you like SLI then ???



I made that post before I got SLI and was still using a x800 xt pe. An x800 xt pe is still enough to play the game at the highest resolutions and qualities.
 

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Reply #28 - Feb 6th, 2005 at 5:52pm

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I made that post before I got SLI and was still using a x800 xt pe. An x800 xt pe is still enough to play the game at the highest resolutions and qualities.


Granted, given that, why on earth fork out for such an expensive SLI setup? - Great though I'm sure it is.

Never mind me, I'm only jealous!  Wink Grin
 

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Reply #29 - Feb 6th, 2005 at 7:45pm

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Granted, given that, why on earth fork out for such an expensive SLI setup? - Great though I'm sure it is.

Never mind me, I'm only jealous!  Wink Grin



For shader intensive games like doom3 and far cry.

I can play doom3 in ultra quality in 16 by 12 res with 8x AA and 16x FSAA without my fps going lower then 30.
 

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Reply #30 - Feb 7th, 2005 at 5:32am
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Who the heck plays Doom III, if there are great running games out there like HL˛?
 
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Reply #31 - Feb 9th, 2005 at 11:32pm

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Who the heck plays Doom III, if there are great running games out there like HL˛?



I got doom3 just so I could play around with the engine. Its a very advanced engine. While other aspects of it are not up to par with the source (HL2) engine, the lighting and shadowing  ability of Doom3 is mind boggling and easily beats the source engine in that aspect. I'm a gfx freak. I spend hours just playing aroudn with the dynamic shadows in doom3. However, as you mention, doom3 as game is really not good. The gameplay is just like doom 1 and 2, with a crappy story attached.
 

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Reply #32 - Feb 10th, 2005 at 5:37am
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The Doom III engine may appear brilliant, but it's nothing more than a technological blind alley, since it uses complicated ways to render shadows and lightning. Plus, it's only suitable for smaller areas, like inside buildings or similar.
The source engine may not have great features like highly dynamic shadows, but the overall image is way better. I was more stunned by the graphics of HL˛ (maps like 'Water Hazard') than by those of Doom III. Well, who likes to look at moving shadows and bump-mapped stuff anyways if that demon right over there is going to burn your rear off any second?
 
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Reply #33 - Feb 10th, 2005 at 10:27pm

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The Doom III engine may appear brilliant, but it's nothing more than a technological blind alley, since it uses complicated ways to render shadows and lightning. Plus, it's only suitable for smaller areas, like inside buildings or similar.
The source engine may not have great features like highly dynamic shadows, but the overall image is way better. I was more stunned by the graphics of HL˛ (maps like 'Water Hazard') than by those of Doom III.

I agree of course, like i said in my previous post. and YEah, it sucks that doom3 was in doors (even the outside was "indoor"), but with all that shadowing, its not a good idea performence wise to be out doors.

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Well, who likes to look at moving shadows and bump-mapped stuff anyways if that demon right over there is going to burn your rear off any second?

Umm...noone here....

Actually, I love to look at gfx. For me, it is a very important. It allows me to be immersed in the game. However, simply good gfx alone won't make me like a game, but it does help.
 

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Reply #34 - Feb 11th, 2005 at 6:16am
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Yes,graphics can be very important, but if the rest of the game sucks, you can kick the whole atmosphere into the trash bin.
 
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