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Oct 5th, 2004 at 6:16pm

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Anyone with accsess to filesharing has to get this and a few others, once you've heard them we must band together arm ourselfs and hunt down the p***s that insulted rock:

DJ Milano: "Sweet child of mine"

theres also a cover of Alice Cooper: "Poison" and Muse: "Newborn" doing the rounds

never thought I'd say this but they're worse than teenybopper rock (see Busted/McFly), they take one great song, "dance it up" and make money off it

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR  Angry Angry Angry Angry

rant over.... for a while  Angry
 

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Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2004 at 6:28pm

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Just a few minutes ago on the way home I was flippin through channels I heard some hip hop crap that had Crazy Train overdubbed.
This is what I mean whenever I complain about "real" music, these hip hop people are not artist, musicians, singers etc..
They are frauds that rip off real artists. They can't write their own music so they "borrow" someone elses. and call it thier own, then there are the morons that vote for them to win the awards like "Best Artist of The Year", have you ever once heard one of them say thanks to the person that actually wrote the original song? NO! (well, if they did thank them you wouldn't be able to understand what the hell they said anyway)
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2004 at 6:35pm

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Just remembered another: Puff Daddy/P.Diddy/ whatever he calls himself: "Come with me" blatent rip off of Led Zep: "Kashmir", and your right I've never once heard Zep getting any credit for that one.
Only one I can think of that gives credit is "Every breath you take" and how much of the reasoning is because Sting was still on the Puff dady cover  Undecided
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2004 at 8:21am
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This one was actually pretty good for a rip-off.
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 8th, 2004 at 3:07pm

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Yah Jimmy Page actually wrote it with him and re-rocorded the riff, he was even in the video Tongue

But yeah it is annoying when they steal riffs.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 9th, 2004 at 6:32am

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For the ones that give permission to have thier music used by these untalented geeks might just be a money issue, they want more cash and the market is in crap so they bow to it and let others desicrate what was once a good song Undecided
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 9th, 2004 at 10:47am

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Yah Jimmy Page actually wrote it with him and re-rocorded the riff, he was even in the video


  ok, never heard that before  Embarrassed

still p****s me off though  Angry
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 9th, 2004 at 3:25pm

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Lol I doubt mr Page needs any money 8)
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 4:18am

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*Sigh*  Here we go again with this conversation...

No one has any right to sit here and deride Hip-Hop for adapting older rock songs to meet their new idea.  Rock -n- Roll was founded on adapting new music from older forms!  Half of what Led Zepplin did was remakes of old Blues classics.  I can see a bunch of old Blues fans sitting around saying 'Led who?  What the hell are they doing to my music?"  They're not the only ones that did it either.  AC/DC, Aerosmith, Elvis, and just about anyone else you can name did it.  Music is a form of evolution and as the saying goes 'Nothing is new under the sun'.

This does not mean I like Hip-Hop.  Personally I don't.  But let's not be hypocrites here...
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 2:18pm

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No one has any right to sit here and deride Hip-Hop for adapting older rock songs to meet their new idea.


granted rock draws on blues for inspiration but a hell of a lot of dance s*** ripps it off, the speed it up replace the original singer with a squeeky high pitch voice and maybey add another drum beat then sell it as their own!

you've gotta listen to the songs I mentioned and the originals to understand what I'm saying, I'm not puttin hip-hop down, just talentless wonders.  8)

To be honest I'm no fan of hip-hop either but at least some of them are trying to be original, that said dance and hip-hop are not the same genre.
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 2:24pm

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Perhaps, but while you and I may prefer one thing, some may prefer that squeaky voice.  This is not an original thing that is happenig here.  So you tell me why AC/DC should be able to remake 'You shook me all night long' as a heavy metal song (the original is slow and mellow) but some Hip-Hop guy can't remake AC/DC?
 

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Reply #11 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 3:48pm

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Makes me think of what Rolf Harris did to Led Zepplins "Stairway to Heaven" I'm still smarting at that one!  Grin Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 8:58pm

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Dread Pirate Roberts there is a big difference between sampling and doing cover songs.

What many dance or hip hop artists do is actually just record the riff off of a CD and lay it directly into their song. Many times they do this and don't even call it the same name. Led Zep's song you were reffering to was Whole Lotta Love and only the Lyrics were similar (not actually the same any way) but the music was completely different. Cover songs are fine I mean Shakira even did a version of Back in Black that is ok with me. Like I have no objection to P Diddy's version of Kashmir because although it didn't have the same name proper credit was given to Page for the riff.

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Reply #13 - Oct 11th, 2004 at 5:40pm

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Pete I think you hit this one right on the head  8)
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 11th, 2004 at 6:04pm

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For once I agree with Kevin. Shocked

Have any of you read how most of the original black Blues musicians were ripped off by less talented musicians stealing their songs & arrangements? Many of them died in poverty. This is how rock 'n roll was born in the first place. I can't say I like any of this sampled stuff they do nowadays but I have no right to criticise. It's basically no different to what's been going on since music was first recorded. There seems to be a sort of snobbery about Rock music these days. The original rock 'n roll was intended for dancing to. That's all it is, popular dance music. I know cos I was there at the time. It was a very exciting time but please don't try & make it into something it never was in the first place. The same goes for a lot of "Classical" music. Music is music. Something to be enjoyed.  Either you like it or you don't. Wink
 

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