Simviation Forum - Autogen problem

Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 11:36pm

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Hi al,
I have not had FS9 for long but, I have heard that there is a problem that the autogen can accumulated using up memory.
That's the best way to fix this and, what other tricks and changes do people make to fs9 to make it run smooth and get the best out of (not including the latest and greatest computer of course) .

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Rhys

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Reply #1 - Sep 4^th, 2004 at 12:07pm

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Quote: "(not including the latest and greatest computer of course)"

Without adequate resources no graphic-intensive computer program will run properly (smoothly)

Upgrade your videocard

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Reply #2 - Sep 4^th, 2004 at 3:20pm

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Heya HSV,

A common issue with FS 2004 are all of the restaurant signs clogging the memory (especially in urban areas). This over a period of time can cause frame rates to drop.

Two things that you may do to avoid this:

1. In the main FS2004 folder you will find a subfolder called Autogen. In that folder there is a single file named Default.xml . I renamed this file to default.BAK.

2. Find the line in the [Graphics] section of FS9.cfg file that reads TERRAIN_USE_VECTOR_OBJECTS=1 and change the 1 to a 0 so that the new line reads TERRAIN_USE_VECTOR_OBJECTS=0 .

You'll be missing some fastfood restaurant signs, however, you should see both an end to the poor FPS when returning to the airport to land and an increase in framerates when flying in the city.

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Reply #3 - Sep 4^th, 2004 at 4:28pm

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Greycat,

It is not just the ff signs that this trick deletes... it is a lot of stuff it deletes from the visual scenery. There is a lot of discussion about this in old threads here if you chack back in time.

If you don't mind taking stuff OUT of the sim to get better framerates... than that of course doesn't matter. But if you do, this should be approached with caution.

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Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2004 at 1:31am

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It's always a trade-off between scenery and framerates, there's not many games (or applications if you don't like the games label) that will tax your machine as much as a Flight Simulator!

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2004 at 7:40am

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Greycat,

It is not just the ff signs that this trick deletes... it is a lot of stuff it deletes from the visual scenery. There is a lot of discussion about this in old threads here if you chack back in time.

If you don't mind taking stuff OUT of the sim to get better framerates... than that of course doesn't matter. But if you do, this should be approached with caution.

best,

................john

When you do this "fix" there really is not THAT much taken out, especially nothing that will immediately jump out at you as missing. In fact, unless you are specifically looking through the vast amounts of buildings and scenery objects STILL THERE after the fix for the few objects missing, you will hardly even notice the difference. Flying over a city still looks like a full-blown city. You should just be able to see a 3D city...which you STILL CAN after implementing this "fix". See for yourself. This is what it looks like after renaming that file:

Even road signs are still there...

I have had my sim set like this since the day this "fix" was discovered and it makes a world of difference as far as performance goes...automatic 5-10 (maybe 15) FPS increase no matter what machine you are running. That is well worth the small % of objects you lose. It makes room for improvements in areas you WILL notice, such as more traffic or more complex weather at the same FPS cost.

And the greatest part about it is?! It can be switched and then reversed simply by renaming the file back to the original name. Nothing permanent is done at all. Try it and see for yourself. If you can't handle to chicken signs being gone from the game, rename it back and BAM there you go. As good as new!

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Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2004 at 9:07am

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Hmmm...I'll just have to give this a try!

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2004 at 8:03pm

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Heyyy

I liiike these results...I think I'll keep these settings!

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!

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Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2004 at 8:22pm

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Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. I'll make a backup copy of the files I need to change, and give it a go.

Thanks once again

Rhys

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