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Can a prop have contrails? (Read 367 times)
Sep 2nd, 2004 at 7:38pm

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When jets fly over my house sometimes they have contrails coming off there engines...well do prop aircraft have contrails...like the Dash and such commercial props?
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2004 at 7:53pm

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Hi JR...!

Try this...>>>

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/class/contrail.html

Cheers... Grin...!

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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2004 at 8:39pm

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Contrails are in general a subject to exhaust temperature and the the SAT.  Depending on winds and SAT they will be visible for a longer time.

Props tends to fly at lower altitudes where the temp. is much warmer so there is one reason you don't see contrails after props...

But if a Dash-8 would fly at FL370 it would most likely produce contrails awell.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2004 at 10:03pm

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I hate to be the one to point out the glaringly obvious but how many thousands of pictures have you seen with squadrons of B-17's producing contrails?

http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/gallery.html
 

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #4 - Sep 2nd, 2004 at 11:02pm

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Well, I haven't seen many B-17's on photo regardless.  Grin
But that webpage seems to confuse contrails and vapor trails/wing-tip vortices, or am I experiencing a language barrier here  ???
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2004 at 2:06am

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Maybe it's just me..............BUT it seems like I've seen plenty of documentaries and read plenty of books with pictures of B-17's flying high enough to create a contrail. These type of photos seem, to me, to be more common, because they dramatically illustrate the high altitudes in which the aircraft flew.
Alright.............there is ONE picture, in the group of photos on that site, of some C-130's participating in wingtip vortice studies. As far as I remember,  Roll Eyes  ALL of the other pic's are of CONTRAILS(condensation trails created by the temperature differential between the hot exhaust and supercooled moist air mass).

The problem is...........you know English too well!!!  Roll Eyes  Angry  Grin
 

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2004 at 3:26am

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There seems to be some confusion over the definition of the word "contrail". I'm not sure when it was first used but I think it's comparatively recent. Trails in the sky caused by an aircraft were commonly called vapour trails during WWII (& when I was growing up in the 1950s). These famous photos show the "vapour trails" after combat over St. Paul's cathedral in London during the Battle of Britain. This was a common sight all over south-east England in the summer of 1940. They would be called contrails nowadays.

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PS. Like the B-17 photos these trails were left by conventional piston-engined aircraft. It's worth remembering that the Dash 8 is powered by turboprops which are basically gas turbines (jet engines) driving propellers.
« Last Edit: Sep 3rd, 2004 at 7:26am by Hagar »  

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