Search the archive:
Simviation Main Site
|
Site Search
|
Upload Images
Simviation Forum
›
Real World
›
Real Aviation
› Can a prop have contrails?
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages: 1
Can a prop have contrails? (Read 367 times)
Sep 2
nd
, 2004 at 7:38pm
jrpilot
Offline
Colonel
Gender:
Posts: 2255
When jets fly over my house sometimes they have contrails coming off there engines...well do prop aircraft have contrails...like the Dash and such commercial props?
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #1 -
Sep 2
nd
, 2004 at 7:53pm
Fozzer
Offline
Colonel
An elderly FS 2004 addict!
Hereford. England. EGBS.
Posts: 24861
Hi JR...!
Try this...>>>
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/class/contrail.html
Cheers...
...!
Paul.
Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #2 -
Sep 2
nd
, 2004 at 8:39pm
Nexus
Offline
Colonel
The greater of two evils...
Gender:
Posts: 3282
Contrails are in general a subject to exhaust temperature and the the SAT. Depending on winds and SAT they will be visible for a longer time.
Props tends to fly at lower altitudes where the temp. is much warmer so there is one reason you don't see contrails after props...
But if a Dash-8 would fly at FL370 it would most likely produce contrails awell.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #3 -
Sep 2
nd
, 2004 at 10:03pm
OTTOL
Offline
Colonel
Fintas, Kuwait (OKBK)
Gender:
Posts: 918
I hate to be the one to point out the glaringly obvious but how many thousands of pictures have you seen with squadrons of B-17's producing contrails?
http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/gallery.html
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #4 -
Sep 2
nd
, 2004 at 11:02pm
Nexus
Offline
Colonel
The greater of two evils...
Gender:
Posts: 3282
Well, I haven't seen many B-17's on photo regardless.
But that webpage seems to confuse contrails and vapor trails/wing-tip vortices, or am I experiencing a language barrier here ???
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #5 -
Sep 3
rd
, 2004 at 2:06am
OTTOL
Offline
Colonel
Fintas, Kuwait (OKBK)
Gender:
Posts: 918
Maybe it's just me..............BUT it seems like I've seen plenty of documentaries and read plenty of books with pictures of B-17's flying high enough to create a contrail. These type of photos seem, to me, to be more common, because they dramatically illustrate the high altitudes in which the aircraft flew.
Alright.............there is ONE picture, in the group of photos on that site, of some C-130's participating in wingtip vortice studies. As far as I remember,
ALL of the other pic's are of CONTRAILS(condensation trails created by the temperature differential between the hot exhaust and supercooled moist air mass).
The problem is...........you know English too well!!!
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #6 -
Sep 3
rd
, 2004 at 3:26am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
There seems to be some confusion over the definition of the word "contrail". I'm not sure when it was first used but I think it's comparatively recent. Trails in the sky caused by an aircraft were commonly called vapour trails during WWII (& when I was growing up in the 1950s). These famous photos show the "vapour trails" after combat over St. Paul's cathedral in London during the Battle of Britain. This was a common sight all over south-east England in the summer of 1940. They would be called contrails nowadays.
PS. Like the B-17 photos these trails were left by conventional piston-engined aircraft. It's worth remembering that the Dash 8 is powered by turboprops which are basically gas turbines (jet engines) driving propellers.
«
Last Edit: Sep 3
rd
, 2004 at 7:26am by Hagar
»
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Pages: 1
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
« Home
‹ Board
Top of this page
Forum Jump »
Home
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
Current Flight Simulator Series
- Flight Simulator X
- FS 2004 - A Century of Flight
- Adding Aircraft Traffic (AI) & Gates
- Flight School
- Flightgear
- MS Flight
Graphic Gallery
- Simviation Screenshots Showcase
- Screenshot Contest
- Edited Screenshots
- Photos & Cameras
- Payware Screenshot Showcase
- Studio V Screenshot Workshop
- Video
- The Cage
Design Forums
- Aircraft & 3D Design
- Scenery & Panel Design
- Aircraft Repainting
- Designer Feedback
General
- General Discussion
- Humour
- Music, Arts & Entertainment
- Sport
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
- Hardware
- Tweaking & Overclocking
- Computer Games & Software
- HomeBuild Cockpits
Addons Most Wanted
- Aircraft Wanted
- Other Add-ons Wanted
Real World
- Real Aviation ««
- Specific Aircraft Types
- Autos
- History
On-line Interactive Flying
- Virtual Airlines Events & Messages
- Multiplayer
Simviation Site
- Simviation News & Info
- Suggestions for these forums
- Site Questions & Feedback
- Site Problems & Broken Links
Combat Flight Simulators
- Combat Flight Simulator 3
- Combat Flight Simulator 2
- Combat Flight Simulator
- CFS Development
- IL-2 Sturmovik
Other Websites
- Your Site
- Other Sites
Payware
- Payware
Old Flight Simulator Series
- FS 2002
- FS 2000
- Flight Simulator 98
Simviation Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.5 AE
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.