Simviation Forum - polygon limits

Aug 31^st, 2004 at 5:21pm

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Does anyone know of the polygon limits of fs9? I am modifying a 3ds max 5 tutorial airplane (that looks like a cessna 402). The aircraft itself is roughly 8000 polys. But my landing gear is roughly the same amount. I know I'm going to have to redo the gear. But I have no idea how many polys are too many. Any help will e appreciated.

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Reply #1 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 5:26pm

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8000? Pah, no worries.

My models are usually around 40-50,000 polys and my Micro turbine helicopter at www.hovercontrol.com ; is over 70,000!

Dunno how I got away with that one as it is still reasonably frame rate-friendly.

I set my personal limit (and am constantly trying to get WAY below it) at 50,000 polys with VC.

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Reply #2 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 6:41pm

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Thanks, I thought that it might not work. The only game engine that i've worked with is no one lives forever. Poly counts in that had to be very low.

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Reply #3 - Aug 31^st, 2004 at 8:58pm

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On landing gear - remember that a smoothed 8 sided tube is indistiguishable from a smooth 32-sided tube, especiually if it is inside another (as in compressing gear).

I am of the minimalist theory - enough polygons to fool the eye.

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Reply #4 - Sep 1^st, 2004 at 8:21am

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I'm slowly coming around to that.
Looking at some of my early renders was a bit of an eye opener. Nuts with rounded heads, washers with 36 sides etc.

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Reply #5 - Sep 2^nd, 2004 at 4:34pm

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Sorry for my ignorance but how do I find out the amount of polygons in a file in 3ds max?

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Reply #6 - Sep 2^nd, 2004 at 4:40pm

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Open the Utilities panel. You will see a button called "More". Select it then look in the list for "Polygon Counter" choose it and hit Open.

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Reply #7 - Sep 2^nd, 2004 at 4:49pm

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Ok thanks, err would 464668 be breaking any boundries?

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Reply #8 - Sep 2^nd, 2004 at 10:02pm

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Ok thanks, err would 464668 be breaking any boundries?

*Hiccup*! That's a helluva lot of polys. I don't think FS will run that without a good five minutes of loading time. Have you tried it yet?

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Reply #9 - Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 1:30am

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Ok thanks, err would 464668 be breaking any boundries?

Is this the poly count for the A-10? If so, you might want to consider building another one and chalk this one up to a useful learning exercise. Shoot for a count of 50K. You can use the Polygon Counter to budget you as your work progresses.

I have been in touch today with a couple members from the user group we talked about via email. Were going to take a look at it next Wednesday night, but from the feed back I've gotten back on it isn't promising.

I hate to tell you to start over. I know how long it takes a project to come together, but sometimes it's a necessary evil.

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Reply #10 - Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 11:11am

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Ok It sounds as though I will have to start over, or I could remover the weaponry. Apart from a glitch with the tail section it runs fine without those.

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Reply #11 - Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 1:56pm

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That's a rotten shame having to start over (BTDTGGTS) but try removing surplus bits first. Also, if it will compile then it will probably run OK.... I have also found using 'Optimize' quite useful too.

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Reply #12 - Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 2:29pm

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After a little bit of work I have been able to dispose of 300000 polygons with hardly any loss of quality. I am currently at about 100000 and can keep going I think, although it does run fine in fs.

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Reply #13 - Sep 3^rd, 2004 at 6:40pm

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That sounds hopeful.

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