Simviation Forum - ati 9200 radeon headaches

Aug 15^th, 2004 at 12:14pm

Gary R. Offline
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I just bought a 9200se radeon. I wanted a better card than the 64 meg 7200 i got with the computer but I had to stay within the boudget agreed on by my wife. Now, i know you all will dog me for going with the 9200 rather than the 96 or 9800 but I think my troubles would have been the same.
First, the driver on the disk was not up to my current windows pack
Second, even though my motherboard is supposed to support 8x agp for some reason I can't initiate agp texture acceleration. So, I did a search on my motherboard manufactureres site (gigabyte) and found an agp bios flash which I am about to install.
Now, here's a question. When I check my hardware profiles the location given for my graphics card is PCI bus 1. Tell me, is it poossible to install an agp card in a pci hook-up by accident or is that physically impossible and its all a software foul-up? Thanks guys.

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Reply #1 - Aug 15^th, 2004 at 1:08pm

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I dont think its possible to put an AGP card into a PCI slot. Bit late no you woulda been better of going for the plain 9200 without the SE on the end but not to worry.

As for drivers I usually find the drivers provided with any graphics card I have brought to be utter poop. You would be best off going to www.ati.com and getting the latest official drivers and using those.

Also get a program called 'DriverCleaner' and use this to make sure all reminisants of old drivers are removed. Run this program after u have removed the main bulk of the old drivers using the Add/Remove function in the control panel.

Edit : Also go into your BIOS and under 'Advanced Features' (usually) find the AGP acceleration bit. Make sure its enabled or set at the required setting i.e. 2x, 4x, 8x. You will want 8x.

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Reply #2 - Aug 15^th, 2004 at 1:25pm

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Also in the BIOS setup you will want to set the AGP Aperature to the size of the memory on the video card... which is 128M I think on that one.

Once you have the new stuff in there, go to the "START" button, and select "Run" and type in "DXdiag" and run it. It will tell you all you need to know about how your system is set up and functining.

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Reply #3 - Aug 16^th, 2004 at 1:37pm

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This is why you can't have good graphics for FS9....

Looks like the 9200SE didn't make the list.

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Reply #4 - Aug 16^th, 2004 at 3:07pm

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Just as a point of interest here in this framerate discussion with the chart above to reference........

I went from a Radeon 9600 pro to a Radeon 9800XT card... and saw a MINIMAL increase in framerates ....at the place that it all matters..... which is on short final at a large international airport with 100% AI traffic and sliders more or less maxed.

Away from that environment... I saw marked increses in framerates and improvement in visual quality.

There is more involved in framerates than simply the video card, methinks.

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Reply #5 - Aug 16^th, 2004 at 3:45pm

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Yup for FS to work its best you need a megga CPU and a megga G/card. I got the card workin on the CPU bit now Wink

You would probably get away with 512ram no probs

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Reply #6 - Aug 16^th, 2004 at 5:31pm

Gary R. Offline
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I'm not good @ getting into the bios settings, never had tofool much with them. Is there a tutorial anywhere I can check? Or, I might just call up my local shop I do business with and get a briefing on it from them.

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Reply #7 - Aug 17^th, 2004 at 9:53am

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It's in your PC's manual - you usually hit the delete key or an Function "F" key on bootup to enter the hidden BIOS screen menus.

Just don't change anything until you are sure.

but, wait, that isn't going to help you....... Tongue

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