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Reply #15 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 5:37am

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With all do respect,I preserve every default plane the way they come,I think the dinamics are closest of the real life planes,you should save first the original by making a copy of the lear folder,them make the experiments with a copy,its my opinion only


I also rather fly the default FS9 aircraft because I like the closest to real. I am just playing with the configuration just to see what can be change and how to change it. I already backed up every Panel folder and air file and aircraft.cfg file for every add on and default FS9 aircraft that I have. I backed up every one so I would have a backup so If I mess something up in the configuration while installing new aircraft paints to the aircraft.cfg file or installing upgrades to the panel, so it would be easy to replace.
 

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Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 5:51am

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I agree with Alrot, jucing up the .air file to make it easier to fly is not cool Undecided



I was not doing it to make it easier to fly. I was just messin with it to a small glitch in the autopilot that effects the altitude hold, once I get above FL200 the auto pilot can't hold the nose level, it keeps pulling the nose up and climbs about 300ft above the assigned altitude the puts the nose down and goes about 100ft below the assigned altitude the repeats that. But it will never stay steady.

While I was doing that I saw the speed and just started messing with it to see what kind of changes it would make.
 

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Reply #17 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 6:07am

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Hey; each to his own!

If Cybersurf wants to enter the wonderful world of modding; tinkering like he's doing is a good way to start.

Cybersurf: Each plane has 2 files working in conjunction to provide the flight dynamics: the .air file and the aircraft.cfg.
If you've never done this before; I strongly recommend you ignore the .air file (which contains the aircraft's base parameters and characteristics)  and concentrate on the .cfg; which among other things adjusts the .air file's parameters. It's also a LOT easier to work with.
If you want to make the Lear faster; you need to change a couple of things:
1) Under [Reference Speeds]; increase the 'Max Mach' and 'Max Indicated speed' to a point where the aircraft won't overstress with the faster speed you're about to give it.
2) Under [Jet Engine]; increase the value from 1.0 to something that'll give you the speed you want. Warning; you don't have to tweak it much; 1.5 would be a good starting point.
There are other fields to change as well; such as the flight tuning scalars; just remember to back up the file before you start; one wrong number can send everything south in a major hurry.
Good luck! Smiley



I could not find a section in the aircraft.cfg of the Lear Jet called "[Reference Speeds]"
 

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Reply #18 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 6:38am

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Hey; each to his own!

If Cybersurf wants to enter the wonderful world of modding; tinkering like he's doing is a good way to start.

Cybersurf: Each plane has 2 files working in conjunction to provide the flight dynamics: the .air file and the aircraft.cfg.
If you've never done this before; I strongly recommend you ignore the .air file (which contains the aircraft's base parameters and characteristics)  and concentrate on the .cfg; which among other things adjusts the .air file's parameters. It's also a LOT easier to work with.
If you want to make the Lear faster; you need to change a couple of things:
1) Under [Reference Speeds]; increase the 'Max Mach' and 'Max Indicated speed' to a point where the aircraft won't overstress with the faster speed you're about to give it.
2) Under [Jet Engine]; increase the value from 1.0 to something that'll give you the speed you want. Warning; you don't have to tweak it much; 1.5 would be a good starting point.
There are other fields to change as well; such as the flight tuning scalars; just remember to back up the file before you start; one wrong number can send everything south in a major hurry.
Good luck! Smiley


Do you know what varibles I can change to increase the thrust power? (adding more pounds of presureto the thrust)
 

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Reply #19 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 7:46am

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When you get this "air file " thing figured out let me know.

I want to get my DC3 to be able to do Mach 2! Grin Grin

In all seriousness would that be possible? Just for Sh*ts and Giggles. To be able to modify a few lines in the files to make a 3 go that fast? or Have M$ actually made the defaults accurate enough to know that the plane was never designed for that so if it was done the Gooney would just tear apart?


Yes you can alter the air file and the aircraft.cfg file to increase the aircraft's speed. I will also give you the information to increase the reverse thrust power.

As for your question about the plane being capible of such a fast speed, Yes the plane is capible of it but only if you change some varibles in the aircraft.cfg file.

I will give you the information that I have to do so.

1} Open your aircraft.cfg
2} Find         [GeneralEngineData]
                    engine_type = 1
                    Engine.0 = -42.8, -4.8, 0.8
                    Engine.1 = -42.8,  4.8, 0.8
                    fuel_flow_scalar        = 1.0
                    min_throttle_limit = -0.25

Change it to:[GeneralEngineData]
                    engine_type = 1
                    Engine.0 = -42.8, -4.8, 0.8
                    Engine.1 = -42.8,  4.8, 0.8
                    fuel_flow_scalar        = 1.0
                    min_throttle_limit = -0.50

3} Find         [Reference Speeds]
                    flaps_up_stall_speed   = 112.0                
                    full_flaps_stall_speed  = 102.0                
                    cruise_speed               = 464.0                  
                    max_mach                   = 0.81
                    max_indicated_speed   = 330

Change it to:[Reference Speeds]
                    flaps_up_stall_speed    = 112.0                
                    full_flaps_stall_speed  = 102.0                
                    cruise_speed           = 1600.000                  
                    max_mach                = 2.299951
                    max_indicated_speed     = 1600.000

4) Find           [TurbineEngineData]
                     fuel_flow_gain         = 0.0025                
                     inlet_area                = 4.2895                
                     rated_N2_rpm         = 29920                
                     static_thrust            = 3500
                     afterburner_available   = 0                    
                     reverser_available      = 1.000    

Change it to: [TurbineEngineData]
                     fuel_flow_gain         = 0.0025                
                     inlet_area                = 4.2895                
                     rated_N2_rpm         = 29920                
                     static_thrust            = 17.000.000
                     afterburner_available   = 0                    
                     reverser_available      = 1.000    

5} Find:        [jet_engine]
                    thrust_scalar = 1.0

Change it to:[jet_engine]
                    thrust_scalar = 1.5

This information below is for the air file. You can't edit this file like you can the aircraft.cfg. It requires a special program called "AirEd" I have forgot where I downloaded it from, so I you want that program you can send me a instant message on America Online Instant Messenger, My screen name is "Cybersurf872000" or you can send me a instant message on msn Instant Messenger, my screen name is: Cybersurf872000 and I can send it to you on any one of those messengers.

****This is for AirEd****

1) Find              "Reverse Thrust=-25"
2) Change it to "Reverse Thrust=-50"
3) Find              "Mmo=0.81001"
4) Change it to "Mmo=2.3000"
5) Find "Autopilot Settings" then open the submenu, then find :VS hold default(fpm)=1800" look right below that and you should see "unknown2=0" change that to "unknown2=1"

            Also you can E-Mail me at: Cybersurf872000@hotmail.com

You can use these varibles in the Lear Jet, Boeing 737, 747 and the boeing 777 air files. To make those aircraft's go faster. Also you must put the varibles in the aircraft.cfg for the Lear Jet, Boeing 737, 747 and Boeing 777


                           

                                       


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Reply #20 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 9:32am

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[quote author=Graycat8524  link=1092211143/0#10 date=1092346228]especially when you have the Military Effects Pack v1.2 by Toshikazu-Shimizu (Water-Toshi) installed.  The Sonic Boom is awesome![/quote]

And where can that be found? I have looked and can only find V1 for 2002.
 
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Reply #21 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 12:01pm

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[quote author=fretnstuff  link=1092211143/15#20 date=1092403924]

And where can that be found? I have looked and can only find V1 for 2002.[/quote]

I really don't know. I usully go to http://www.go.com  Then in the search bar I type FS2004 Military Effects Pack v1.2 or any file name after "FS2004" and it will tell you where to find the file. But you have to have the exact file name and "Military Effects Pack v1.2" is not it.
 

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Reply #22 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 8:30am
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Sorry folks, I've been working so I haven't been on the forums for a while.

In answer to fretnstuff's question about the latest  Military Effects Pack v1.2 by Toshikazu-Shimizu (Water-Toshi) you can download it here:

[url]http://ww71.tiki.ne.jp/~water-t/milpac012.zip[/url]

I hope that you enjoy it as much as I do!  I have it installed on just about all of my military jet aircraft.
 
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Reply #23 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 9:34am

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Thanks Greycat!
I have been looking for a good effects pack for my limited amount of jets, mainly my favorite Kirk Olsens Viper!
 
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Reply #24 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 2:53pm
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No problem fretnstuff!!


Another excellent Add-On is the Carrier Operation Package by Rob Barendregt and Doug Dawson.  You can pick it up here:

[url]http://www.simviation.com/fsgauges_7.htm[/url]

If you love flying Modern US Navy warplanes (like I do) it's a must have!!  F-14's Rule!!

One of the gauges that this fine package contains is an excellent Sonic Boom effect.  Install is easy and can be done on any aircraft (not just on carrier-landable aircraft).  Install it on the Excalubur Stratocruiser (see my reply above) or Kirk Ollsen's F-16 even!!

After you install be sure to switch views to "Spot View" right before you go to Mach 1.  You will see your aircraft enclosed in a cloud of vapor immediately before Mach 1, the cloud begins dissipating as you reach Mach 1 then you'll hear "KAA-BOOM!!".  It's highly entertaining.
 
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