Simviation Forum - To/From flap on Vor not working

Aug 12^th, 2004 at 4:19pm

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I don't kow what happened but I just realized my to/from flap on my cesna 172 vor no longer works
heres what I mean

this is during the VOR lesson (but it happens everywhere) the VOR station is straight ahead but the flap shows Im over the station instead of "^"

Its permanently stuck on over the VOR no more "^" or "v".

I recopied the guages from the fs9 disk onto my HD again and still no joy

any suggestion

thanks

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Reply #1 - Aug 12^th, 2004 at 4:35pm

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Forgive me for being an idiot but I think I just found the problem I was looking at the wrong flap, the one I should have been looking at is this one

but now I change my question to what does the big flap mean? (its always on over VOR station)

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Reply #2 - Aug 12^th, 2004 at 5:47pm

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That's your glideslope indicator for the ILS.

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Reply #3 - Aug 12^th, 2004 at 5:50pm

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What does the flaps have to do with the VORs? Are they not just flaps on the wing to slow ya down? Grin

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Reply #4 - Aug 12^th, 2004 at 9:14pm

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What does the flaps have to do with the VORs? Are they not just flaps on the wing to slow ya down? Grin

Im not shure if you're joking or not but if not I meant the "To/From Flag" (AKA the Ambiguaty Indicator) under the letters GS (oohh glide slope)

so the flap under the GS tell you if youve passed the ILS?

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Reply #5 - Aug 12^th, 2004 at 9:34pm

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Ahi compadre I really don't get it and I ask the same question as the other fellow what does flaps have to do with VOR or ILS or maybe there's another thing named flaps or flap,sorry by my ignorance,compadre amigo me tomare un tequila a ver si le entiendo Grin

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Reply #6 - Aug 13^th, 2004 at 11:07am

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No, the to/from flag is the little triangle on the bottom part of the guage. If it's pointing up, you're heading towards the VOR, down, you're heading away from it.

Hope that clears things up and such.

J.

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Reply #7 - Aug 13^th, 2004 at 7:07pm

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Like J says...!
When the pointer is facing upwards you are travelling towards the VOR station.
If it's facing down, you've left it behind... Grin

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Just rotate the OBS knob on the VOR indicator until the upright line is vertical, (or three broken lines all match up), and then read the compass direction on the VOR indicator.
(The horizontal line is for instrument approaches only, and indicates whether you are above or below the glide slope).
Turn your aircraft to match the same heading on your main compass.
You are then lined up for the next VOR station... 8)...!

Cheers all... Grin

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Paul.

On the '172, etc, I generally make manual landings, and only use the VOR instrument for tracking between VOR stations... Wink

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A similar thing applies to the ADF indicator. When the radio is tuned to the NDB frequency, the yellow arrow will point to it's direction. When it's vertical you are heading straight for it... Grin

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Reply #8 - Aug 14^th, 2004 at 12:01am

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Ahi compadre I really don't get it and I ask the same question as the other fellow what does flaps have to do with VOR or ILS or maybe there's another thing named flaps or flap,sorry by my ignorance,compadre amigo me tomare un tequila a ver si le entiendo Grin

Im sorry I think I just confused everyone what I meant was Flag not flaps but unfortunately I have dial up and I had to wait for the plumber to call till I could go online and fix it:

I meant the little arrow on the VOR that points up down or showes a checkered flag

now it makes a lot of sense

The arrow next to the letters GS (standing for Glide slope) tell you if you are headed away or toward the ILS

the arrow next to the letters NAV(where the yellow arrow is pointed in second picture) tell you wheter you are headed toward the VOR station or away from the VOR station

The fancy name for the flags is the Ambiguaty Indicator

ps. I've never flown a plane but I actually bought Rob Machados Privite pilot handbook. Belive it or not but its actually really helpfull and not complicated at all.

d@M it! I sound like an infomertial again

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Reply #9 - Aug 14^th, 2004 at 4:38pm

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A few minor things to bring up about VOR's...

The To/From flag will not tell you if you are heading To/From the VOR or not. The airplane's heading has no distinction (unlike the ADF/NDB) whatsoever regarding the VOR indications.

Let me explain:

If you set the 360 radial on the VOR and you are north of the VOR station, the flag will show From. You could be heading north away from the station or south towards the station and the flag will always show From unless you cross south of the VOR, then it will show To.

If you are at the same location and set the 180 radial on the VOR and you are north of the station, the flag will show To. You could be heading north away from the station or south towards the station and the flag will show To unless you cross south of the station and it will switch to From.

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Reply #10 - Aug 14^th, 2004 at 5:21pm

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A few minor things to bring up about VOR's...

The To/From flag will not tell you if you are heading To/From the VOR or not. The airplane's heading has no distinction (unlike the ADF/NDB) whatsoever regarding the VOR indications.

Let me explain:

If you set the 360 radial on the VOR and you are north of the VOR station, the flag will show From. You could be heading north away from the station or south towards the station and the flag will always show From unless you cross south of the VOR, then it will show To.

If you are at the same location and set the 180 radial on the VOR and you are north of the station, the flag will show To. You could be heading north away from the station or south towards the station and the flag will show To unless you cross south of the station and it will switch to From.

It's a funny old do...VOR's... 8)...!

In the Flight Sim...
I look at my GPS map, and tune my NAV radio frequency to the VOR station ahead of me, I then line up the vertical line on the VOR gauge with the OBS knob until the flag indicates "To", and the vertical line(s) are "vertical", and note the degrees on the VOR instrument..
Next I rotate the heading bug on the heading instrument to match the degrees on the VOR gauge, (with or without autopilot).
A steady flight in that direction always takes me direct to the VOR station.
As pass over it, the flag swings round to inticate "From".
I then retune the NAV radio to the next VOR station ahead of me, and repeat the process...

Does this differ in "real life"...?

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