Simviation Forum - GFX vs. Processor

Jul 28^th, 2004 at 6:08pm

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What exactly is more influential on performance? I'm really confused about all this. Tongue

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Reply #1 - Jul 29^th, 2004 at 5:00am

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I am not sure which is more influential, though there are three components in your Pc : CPU, GFX, Ram. If you skimp on any of these then there will be a bottleneck.

So at the moment my G/card is my bottleneck as my CPU isnt that bad and I have good quality / amount of ram. When my new g/card arrives I expect my CPU will then be the bottleneck in my system. Unless you have endless amounts of cash you will never stay at the top. Best advice is always buy the best that you can afford!

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Reply #2 - Jul 29^th, 2004 at 1:28pm

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So whats my bottle neck:

PIII 500Mhz CPU
TNT2 Model 64 Pro GFX
128Mb SDRAM Mem

Is it the GFX?
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Reply #3 - Jul 29^th, 2004 at 4:30pm

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Dan I am not even gonna answer that Wink

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Reply #4 - Jul 29^th, 2004 at 5:04pm

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Reply #5 - Jul 30^th, 2004 at 3:12am

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Dan I am not even gonna answer that

Its the only PC i've got remeber....
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Reply #6 - Jul 30^th, 2004 at 4:19pm

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Nothing is bottle necking in that system. If you upgrade 1 part of it the rest will bottle neck. I would advise a full system upgrade if you are looking for more performance. It took me ages to save up for my rig but it was worth it.

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Reply #7 - Jul 30^th, 2004 at 6:38pm

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Scorpion,

Any gaming system is ultimately limited by its graphics card. So, that's the one thing to aim high for. The graphics card will only be limited by a severely inadequate computer, like Dan's.

Dan, your system is perfectly balanced, sell it as such, and get a new one. In fact, your hesitation is the bottleneck. 8)

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Reply #8 - Jul 31^st, 2004 at 11:27am

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Funny thing that.... Roll Eyes

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Look at my specs below first... Wink

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Now...
Notice that I have an AMD XP 2600+ MMX Processor fitted.
Now, every now and again, my system boots up, (with great difficulty), to either a 1275+ or a 1850+ processor, (because of a correct processor recocnition problem).
Surprisingly, the lower processor speeds have little effect on my Frame Rates, the most important thing seems to be the quality of my graphics card and the amount of memory fitted... 8)...!

Cheers all... Grin

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Paul....I just wish my system would boot-up to my correct processor.... Cry

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Reply #9 - Jul 31^st, 2004 at 1:12pm

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Fozzer,

You might find a BIOS upgrade will fix that.

Maybe something else though, like a ram stick that doesnt always configure to the right timings, so bios drops the speed back.

I bet your systems Front Side Bus Speed is altered when that happens.

Your CPU has a normal clock speed of 2.13ghz, so 1.850ghz isnt far off that, hence the small performance difference..... but at 1.275ghz, I reckon it would run a fair bit slower.

The BIOS's I've seen identify an AMD XP+ CPU correctly if the mainboard's BIOS is correctly configured. If you then up the CPU multiplier ratio, it will incorrectly identify it as , say, an XP2700+ ..... but overdo it or goof other settings and it will just state the SPEED of the CPU as it boots.

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