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Jun 15th, 2004 at 10:14pm

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Is there anyone who likes to fly VOR to VOR.

Am I just crazy? Tongue

What is the point of VOR to VOR over ILS or setting the route direct GPS over VOR

Just curious  Wink

I'm about to do a VOR flight from Escanaba to Sault St Marie...VOR to VOR of course! (yep, I'm crazy)
 

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&...&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!
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Reply #1 - Jun 15th, 2004 at 10:25pm

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ILS is only available at certain runways and has nothing to do about the actual navigation from point A to point B

VOR - VOR is preferable on aircrafts without GPS maybe (Wink) and sometimes it might not be possible (for whatever reason) to get a direct GPS clearance.

It's also many times much easier to fly VOR - VOR than to program a GPS, I'd choose the VOR over GPS anyday if I had to fiddle with a GPS which I'm not acustomed to Smiley
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2004 at 9:58am

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Did I say ILS? Embarrassed Shocked


I meant IFR Grin
 

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&...&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2004 at 10:27am
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99.9% I fly VOR's unless maybe I am flying a big jet over long distances, which I very seldom do. I am more into the Cessna's, Pipers, and small Beechcraft  Grin
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2004 at 10:33am

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Of course, the weather doesn't always cooperate for flying VOR...
 

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&...&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!
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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 2:19am

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in the real world, when it comes to GA at least it has to do with redundancy.  If you loose a GPS signal, you still have a VOR signal to fly by.  And also as mentioned they are more likely to be recieved in a clearance.  Also, it's a lot easier flight planning-wise anyway.  Figuring MEA's, MOCA's MCA, and MRA's are printed right on the charts, it's just easier than relying completely on GPS.  I've flow about 5 or 6 GPS approaches this year and two times had RAIM degredation and had to go missed to do another approach.  And that's why I, untill I get into the larger, more complicated aircraft will always file VOR to VOR/ Victor Airways.
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 4:16am

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Flying VOR to VOR is a lot more fun than flying IFR! It also builds up your navigational/direction awareness skills, I think. Occasionally I'll just hop in a Cessna or the Baron, and go hunting for VORs. I was intending to fly around the world entirely with VORs, but gave up after about a week. Tongue
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 12:47pm

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There aren't enough VOR's in the world !!! ( especially siberia  Smiley )

You should try a VOR approach with zero visibility, nothing gets my heart pumping more. Who needs drugs?!  8)

 
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Reply #8 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 4:14pm

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Speaking of VORs
Is there a way to learn the frequencies of VOR approaches?  I know how ge them for ILS...


Yeah, flying VOR is the most rewarding way to navigate!
 

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&...&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!
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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 4:22pm

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VOR's rule! I go by 'em all the time!
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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 6:08pm
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jordan: you can go to the map and get the frequencies for the VOR's Grin
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 6:14pm
Its2freakinloud   Ex Member

 
I must ask, because I don't quite understand yet, how do you fly VOR


If you prefer email: alex@germainphoto.com

I had to ask
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 6:29pm
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I had a hard time with VOR's at first too, but I finally learned it on my own  Grin

And I taught my wife how to fly VOR. It's easier to show someone than to tell them  Shocked

Next thing I have to tackle is SIDS and STARS  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #13 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 6:39pm

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flying departure and arrival routes has a lot in common with VOR flying. The SID (or STAR) is often a pattern where you use a couple of VOR radials. like one of the departures at my local airport (ESGG)

"Straight ahead to LAV DME 2,5 (ILS MM 21 if no DME)
Turn right to track 140 (max IAS 210kt in turn. At HAR R-213 turn right to intercept HAR R-206. At LAV R-171 DME 13 turn right to track 250 to intercept LAV R-213 and proceed to VADIN"

As you see the VORs I have to dial in is LAV and HAR. It's a little more complicated yes, but practice makes perfect Wink

Although not all SIDS and STARS are designed like that, some make use of waypoints that has no VOR association and requires expensive nav. equipment, but that's a totally different story  Smiley
 
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Reply #14 - Jun 17th, 2004 at 9:46pm

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Quote:
jordan: you can go to the map and get the frequencies for the VOR's Grin



It doesn't show up in that screen when I click the airport (at least I don't think it does).  You mean click one that is near the direction of the runway where I want to land?

What about the VOR chart that shows the altitude you should be at (or should I just stick to the VASI/PAPI)?
 

My first flight in a 172 on August 20, 2004&&...&&&&Doing the right thing is more important than doing the thing right. (P. Drucker) &&&&When all think alike, then no one is thinking. (Walter Lippmann)&&&&Boredom's the problem. And how do you beat Boredom? Adventure!!!&&&&Tyler: You-You'll remember my position, won't you?&&&&Rosie: Sure! Stop by for a drink sometime!&&&&Tyler: Wait! Wait! What is my position?&&&&Rosie: Ehhhh...beats the hell outta me! I just hope I can find my way back home!
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