Simviation Forum - MD-11 Demand

May 29^th, 2004 at 9:24pm

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Is there enough demand for Boeing maybe to reintroduce the MD11? I know demand really slowed on the 757 and forced a shut down but maybe demand for the larger MD11 is still there?

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Reply #1 - May 29^th, 2004 at 9:50pm

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What can the MD-11 do that the 747 can't?

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Reply #2 - May 29^th, 2004 at 11:42pm

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For one thing the MD-11 is smaller and it has one less engine to maintain. Less downtime. I think I read somewhere that FedEx is very angry with Boeing for shutting down that line.

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Reply #3 - May 30^th, 2004 at 5:32am

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No there isnt. As much as i love the plane the simple fact is, it was a huge failure. Fed-ex may be the only company wanting to see it back Tri-jets for the forseeable future are gone.
The MD11 has too many problems to reintroduce it. Range is well below what was promised, the tails to short so low speed handling is awful at best. And with twin jets having the reliability they do and quads being as efficient as they are becoming theres no need for the tri-jet anymore or at least not on a heavy at this time.

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Reply #4 - May 30^th, 2004 at 8:16am

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I fully agree with Craig (Sticking with the professor in the subject

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The MD11 has played out it's role as pax transport in the near future. But it will probably continue to haul cargo for many years to come. Just as the 727's and Dc8's did and still do

And of course FedEx is mad, How do you think Delta Airlines felt when the TriStar production ended in 1985?

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Reply #5 - May 30^th, 2004 at 11:35am

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I would invest in the project if they were able to do what they're doing in the 7E7 program. If they Boeing were to deliver more range buy using better more fuel efficient engines corporations would buy. Delta did eventually buy the MD-11 and I believe most MD-11s are still flying.

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Reply #6 - May 30^th, 2004 at 11:46am

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I would invest in the project if they were able to do what they're doing in the 7E7 program. If they Boeing were to deliver more range buy using better more fuel efficient engines corporations would buy. Delta did eventually buy the MD-11 and I believe most MD-11s are still flying.

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Delta has retired their MD11 fleet (1 may still be flying). But the thing is, the concept and design is not really new. The ETOPS has made trijets obsolete

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Reply #7 - May 30^th, 2004 at 11:51am

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there isnt any way to adapt the 7E7 technology to the MD11, two very differant airframes and two very differant systems. They would have to spend millions on reopening the assembly line. millions on training new engineers. and so on, and there just is no interest from the airlines, fedex couldnt cover the costs alone. The plane is also rather pricey for what it is and since KLM one of the last main operators of this plane is removing them from service for the 777, i think fed-ex will get those when swiss gets rid of theirs again fed-ex. I would like to see them flying more, but it would never happen, let me put it this way. The DC10-30NG would be more likely to make an apperance than an MD11(and i pray to god it will someday:))

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Reply #8 - May 30^th, 2004 at 1:17pm