Simviation Forum - Avro Vulcan

May 28^th, 2004 at 9:27am

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Couldn't find a post about this wonderful bird so......

I personally love this bird (I would love to own one)
Anyway what do YOU think?

Here a some photo's to help you decide......

With the Red Arrows.......

There ya go Grin

Interesting fact : Test Pilot Roly Falk, barrel-rolled a Vulcan to prove it COULD be done 8), he was told NEVER to do it again.
I wonder why? Grin

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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mongsoft/vulcan_image_map_page_all.htm

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Reply #1 - May 28^th, 2004 at 9:54am

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at the time. The vulcan at operational altitude could hang with some of the best fighters so a barrel roll shouldnt have been to much of problem. Or so i have read.
Just a year or two to go and this majestic bird will take to the sky again. And i dont care where i am, i will make it a priority to get to see that first flight:)

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Reply #2 - May 28^th, 2004 at 9:58am

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Just a year or two to go and this majestic bird will take to the sky again. And i dont care where i am, i will make it a priority to get to see that first flight:)

WOW - where will this be?

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Reply #3 - May 28^th, 2004 at 10:09am

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i dont know where it will be. However if you do a search for vulcan to the sky, it will come up with the info you need.

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Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2004 at 10:53am

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The reason why the barrel roll trick was banned was that it was a tad dangerous for lesser mortals, such as RAF bomber pilots Grin

I haven't got a firm date on XH558s return to the skies, but I've still got plenty of video footage, quite a number of photos, and of course a nice big collection of Vulcan books.
The Avro Vulcan, the sexiest bomber ever made 8)

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Reply #5 - May 28^th, 2004 at 2:12pm

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The Avro Vulcan, the sexiest bomber ever made 8)

Agreed

8)

Sadly no longer in operation Cry

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Reply #6 - May 28^th, 2004 at 3:15pm

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Just a year or two to go and this majestic bird will take to the sky again. And i dont care where i am, i will make it a priority to get to see that first flight:)

First flight IF it happens will be from its home base at Bruntingthorpe, Leicestershire. The last time frame I saw suggested late 2005.
For all those young chaps who never saw a Vulcan in flight I can only sum it up with one word, Awesome Grin

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Reply #7 - May 28^th, 2004 at 3:19pm

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thank you for the update:) I will definatly making my way to its first public display. Can you really put into words what its like to see one fly?

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Reply #8 - May 28^th, 2004 at 4:03pm

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Awesome

Roger I'd have said ORGASMIC 8) Grin

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Reply #9 - May 28^th, 2004 at 4:35pm

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I see it flying at Southend Airshow once - it made the damn pier shake Shocked

Loved it absolutely loved it

Then got to see it at Southend Airport(they still have one there - does taxi-runs every now-and-then) 8)

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Reply #10 - May 28^th, 2004 at 5:59pm

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I imagine they will tone the disply down a bit to help extend the life of the airframe, but the sound of those four Bristol Olympus 301s at full power will be worth the airshow fee on its own. A true show stopper, the Vulcan has been sadly missed since it retired.

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Reply #11 - May 28^th, 2004 at 6:10pm

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I saw the Vulcan displayed many times over the years. There were often more than one at the old Farnborough displays. It was always the star of the show at the RAFA display at Shoreham. Everyone loved it, even old ladies. It's party trick was to disappear from view, making everyone think it had gone. Then it would come in from the sea, creeping up behind the crowd before lifting the nose almost vertically & opening up those 4 Olympus engines to full power. This was quite deafening & made the ground shake. You could feel the sound go right through your whole body & your ears would ring for the rest of the day. The only way I can describe it is awesome, a much-abused word I rarely use. I would love to experience this again. Shocked

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Reply #12 - May 28^th, 2004 at 6:44pm

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I only just noticed this, you'd need to hire a bloody helicopter to get in that cockpit. Grin

Sorry had to.
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Reply #13 - May 28^th, 2004 at 6:51pm

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Just found this on the net.......

It's powered by just TWO TJT 3000 engines.
Take-off weight : 150lbs (68kg)

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Reply #14 - May 29^th, 2004 at 7:40am

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I saw that Vulcan (model that is Wink

flying last year. It looks and sounds fantastic. I'll dig out the pics I took.

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Reply #15 - Jun 29^th, 2004 at 1:05pm

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When the Falklands were invaded, the RAF sent Vulcans down to the islands to provide ground support. Once, I think the refueling probe on one of the Vulcans snapped off during flight, and they couldnt get the fuel onboard. does anyone know what happened to this plane?
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Reply #16 - Jun 29^th, 2004 at 1:31pm

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When the Falklands were invaded, the RAF sent Vulcans down to the islands to provide ground support. Once, I think the refueling probe on one of the Vulcans snapped off during flight, and they couldnt get the fuel onboard. does anyone know what happened to this plane?
Akula_dude

I don't recall this incident but that's not to say it didn't happen. As I remember the Vulcan that bombed the Port Stanley runway operated from the Ascension Islands. It was a logistically expensive long-range mission & I saw it more as a token raid to prove it could be done. I'm not sure how many aircraft were used & the 2 mentioned here might have been the only ones.

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On 30th April 1982 XM607 dropped 21 x 1000lb iron bombs during the first raid on Stanley Airport during the Falklands Conflict. Six in-flight refuellings were needed for the 15 hour 7860 mile return journey from Ascension Island. XM607 flew 2 more 'Black Buck' missions on 3rd May and 12th June 1982. The flight time from Ascension Island to Port Stanley by Vulcan was over eight hours, 3886 miles each way, and it was the longest range bombing attack in history. The operation, code named 'Black Buck', involved the use of 11 supporting Victor tankers aircraft from 55 and 57 Squadrons, and 2 Vulcan bombers, or which XM607 was originally designated the spare aircraft.

PS. Surprisingly the Vulcan was retired from active service soon afterwards.

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Reply #17 - Jun 29^th, 2004 at 1:32pm

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The infamous Black Buck missions.
All the Vulcans had problems with leaking probes (mainly leaking onto the screen in front of the pilot Shocked

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The broken probe occured to XM597 on Black Buck Six, and she had to divert to Rio de Janeiro after dumping all Top Secret documents in the Atlantic and declaring a Mayday. The pilot Sqn Ldr McDougall got the plane down with some 2000lbs of fuel on-board, less than would be needed to fly a single circuit of the airfield Shocked

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Reply #18 - Jun 29^th, 2004 at 1:34pm

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Doug there were 4 Vulcans constantly used during the Black Buck missions, and one backup (from 9 Sqn which had just dispanded if I remember correctly, but I'd need to look it up to be sure).

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Reply #19 - Jun 30^th, 2004 at 7:58am

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The broken probe occured to XM597 on Black Buck Six, and she had to divert to Rio de Janeiro after dumping all Top Secret documents in the Atlantic and declaring a Mayday. The pilot Sqn Ldr McDougall got the plane down with some 2000lbs of fuel on-board, less than would be needed to fly a single circuit of the airfield Shocked

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I have a photo signed by all the crew of XM597 Grin

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Reply #20 - Jun 30^th, 2004 at 12:41pm

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Show off Roger Wink

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Reply #21 - Jul 1^st, 2004 at 5:35am

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Reply #22 - Jul 1^st, 2004 at 8:25am

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About time!!!
How are you Charlie, haven't seen you for a bit?

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Reply #23 - Jul 1^st, 2004 at 11:26am

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XM597? Oh, I've seen that one! Totally cool! I saw it in Scotland, but i never thought that it was the one that broke it's refueling probe! By the way, how did the plane make it back if it couldnt get the fuel? ???
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Reply #24 - Jul 1^st, 2004 at 12:58pm

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divert to Rio de Janeiro

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Reply #25 - Jul 1^st, 2004 at 2:22pm

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Vulcan Readings:

AIR Illustrated (Key Publishing) just came out with an article comparing the B-1 and the Vulcan.

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Reply #26 - Jul 5^th, 2004 at 4:02pm

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Hello,
Was browsing the internet for downloadable footage of the Vulcan and came across your little discussion. You mentioned a certain aircraft which diverted to Rio de Janeiro during one of the Bluck Buck missions (#6 I think?).

Anyway, don't know if you're aware but the following link is where the aircraft is these days.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/mus/uk/eastfortune/eastfortune.htm

I'm sure there's a pic somewhere on this site.

I also wanted to add that the crew were instructed to ditch the aircraft in an emergency, but decided against it. They threw out all important documentation and fired their remaining load of shrike missiles (after destroying a mobile radar station I believe). However one jammed or malfunctioned.

Anyway, you can read up on the whole story by reading about the Vulcan on the Thunder and Lightnings website. This isn't my site or a plug for a friend, but it is definately THE most informative history I personally have read about the Vulcan and British post war to Cold War jets., certainly on the internet.

Paul (new member), 25, Leeds.

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Reply #27 - Jul 6^th, 2004 at 10:26am

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Great plane, great plane. Here's a virtual XH558 flying over the Scilly Isles on a rare trip out in FS2002 ...

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Reply #28 - Jul 6^th, 2004 at 10:29am

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Ooops, try that one again..

8)

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Reply #29 - Jul 30^th, 2004 at 7:02am

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About time!!!
How are you Charlie, haven't seen you for a bit?

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I'm very well thank you - survived the latest round of Mr Brown and Mr Hoon's defence cuts. On 2 weeks leave - how lovely! It's nice to catch up on all i've been missing for the last few months...

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Reply #30 - Aug 9^th, 2004 at 8:12pm

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I think there was a big article on the Vulcan being restored in the january issue of Air and Space. I'll have to go dig it out.

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Reply #31 - Aug 21^st, 2004 at 2:48pm

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The pilot Sqn Ldr McDougall

wonder if he's a relation

anyway, I've been in the Vulcan at East Fortune during one of the open days about 7 years ago, a big beast with more presance than a B-52 (I was kinda disapointed the first time I saw a BUFF having always thought of it as a huge beast...)

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Reply #32 - Aug 23^rd, 2004 at 3:34pm

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VULCAN FOREVER

ps, could you bring bak the victor to?

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