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Apr 10th, 2004 at 1:15pm

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Does anyone nows what going on with the develoment of CFS4. UBI is the process of developing a new Simulator for the Pacific and I have not heard anything from MS. I hope MS listen to us their consummer and be not like the Big Three in the Auto Industry were in the early 80s. They wanted to dictate to Buyers what kind of car one  should buy. While the Japanese where giving us what we wanted at the time. It almost cost them their extintion. If you give us a improve version of CFS2 with improve communation ,Squadron control and a all inclusive MB .  Your competition will hard press. You neen not worry I think you still have loyal following . Do not take us for granted.
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 10th, 2004 at 3:02pm

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Word is CFS4 will be set in the Pacific Theater and will be based upon an improved version of the current CFS3 engine.
 

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Reply #2 - Apr 14th, 2004 at 3:10am

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If MS want to keep going with the WW2 ims for the CFS series why do they keep repeating the theatres. I think it would be nice to see a change, what is wrong with the Atlantic or Eastern Front, although they may not have been major air theatres at least it would be a change.

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Reply #3 - Apr 14th, 2004 at 11:29am

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Because apparently people like flying most in theatres that were major in WWII. I.e. Europe and the Pacific. I think a Swordfish campaign in the Med would be a fantastic sim, but no...

Whats more, in CFS2 they didn't finish the war. So thats what CFS4 will do.
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 23rd, 2004 at 5:00pm

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How 'bout Africa and Italy, and for more on CFS4 try www.sim-outhouse.com, they've got a whole forum dedicated to it
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 23rd, 2004 at 5:25pm

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*What going on with CFS4*

Probably nothing.
If it was due out this year we've had heard rumours regarding E3, but nothing so far,
and that's scary.
 

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Reply #6 - May 6th, 2004 at 6:30am

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*bump*

Ok, E3 is next week and no word on CFS4.
most other developers have already made avaialble info about their up and coming games, but no CFS4 whatsoever.
I'm afraid they pulled the plug on the CFS series.
 

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Reply #7 - May 6th, 2004 at 3:27pm

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I doubt M$ have pulled the plug on the CFS series, its too much of a cash cow, but I think they are probably keeping a lid on things to surprise us all after the almighty negative-press that CFS3 got when it was released... I'm sure if anything does come out you'll see it here within mins Wink

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Ps. Personally I'd like to see it where you can choose campaigns such as the Eastern Front, or N.Africa... How about Dunkirk missions?
 

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Reply #8 - May 6th, 2004 at 4:09pm

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Reply #9 - May 6th, 2004 at 4:11pm

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Dave my personal evil activities are not the concern of M$! Much as they should worship me for the incredible testing I do for their products Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #10 - May 6th, 2004 at 6:30pm

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I doubt M$ have pulled the plug on the CFS series, its too much of a cash cow, but I think they are probably keeping a lid on things to surprise us all after the almighty negative-press that CFS3 got when it was released... I'm sure if anything does come out you'll see it here within mins Wink

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Ps. Personally I'd like to see it where you can choose campaigns such as the Eastern Front, or N.Africa... How about Dunkirk missions?


Ozzy, I think it's pretty obvious that CFS4 will not be released this year, if at all.
There are rumours that they have pulled the plug on it like they did on trainsim.
We had definitely heard about it if it was due out this year.
Beside, it probably not M$ policy to surprise us with unexpected titles. Wink
 

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Reply #11 - May 7th, 2004 at 3:22am

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Hmm well I'll wait until I hear something. And with a nose as big as mine you can bet I'll ferret out the info Wink
I think they should look at either doing the campaigns that haven't been covered in previous versions, or look at Korea...
Ah well I guess we just wait Sad

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Reply #12 - May 7th, 2004 at 4:34am

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It would be a real shame if the plug has been pulled. I do think M$ are/were on the wrong track with the CFS series and should have stuck to the CFS2/FS9 type engine, but now I have it all set up and running I find CFS3 most enjoyable.
I would love to see North Africa or Korea in the next version.
 

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Reply #13 - May 7th, 2004 at 8:10am

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"I doubt M$ have pulled the plug on the CFS series, its too much of a cash cow"

While CFS3 has sold circles around every other air combat game over the past two years (and continues to believe it or not), it is no cash cow.  Flight sims are a niche market.  I suspect even if the CFS series is cancelled, CFS3 will travel deep into the future with its wide open architecture.

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Reply #14 - May 7th, 2004 at 1:27pm

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What I posted at the Sim-Outhouse:

If, and it's a pretty big if, CFS is being dropped...I would expect it is being dropped in place of integration.

Imagine late next year when you load up FS2006 and the install options include "Combat Support Modules". I've noticed a growing number of FS players asking for some of the things that CFS offers, and the reverse is also true. Maybe MS noticed and decided to integrate the two and offer one larger, bigger version.

In a combined version:

ATC could become GCI: "Viper Lead, Boston Center. MARSA Acknowledged, Frequency change approved, contact WARLOCK on 101.5, monitor GUARD. Good Day and Good Hunting."

Firebombers could drop real water "ordinance" on simulated fires...with results.

A Coast Guard "Guardian" could fly live intercepts against smugglers off the Keys. The smugglers could then try to evade if they detect the intercept.

Dang, now I'm getting myslef excited about something that probably isn't even happening.
 

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Reply #15 - Jun 5th, 2004 at 2:45pm

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I say we put together a petition, eh? ???
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2004 at 11:51pm

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What I posted at the Sim-Outhouse:

If, and it's a pretty big if, CFS is being dropped...I would expect it is being dropped in place of integration.

Imagine late next year when you load up FS2006 and the install options include "Combat Support Modules". I've noticed a growing number of FS players asking for some of the things that CFS offers, and the reverse is also true. Maybe MS noticed and decided to integrate the two and offer one larger, bigger version.

In a combined version:

ATC could become GCI: "Viper Lead, Boston Center. MARSA Acknowledged, Frequency change approved, contact WARLOCK on 101.5, monitor GUARD. Good Day and Good Hunting."

Firebombers could drop real water "ordinance" on simulated fires...with results.

A Coast Guard "Guardian" could fly live intercepts against smugglers off the Keys. The smugglers could then try to evade if they detect the intercept.

Dang, now I'm getting myslef excited about something that probably isn't even happening.



I was thinking along these lines myself!
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 22nd, 2004 at 12:49am

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I would most defintely be in favor.  I've always wanted CFS with the technicality of FS.  Plus I don't like how Microsoft's CFSs tend to be dissconnected; here's combat, here's real life.  I doubt they're being integrated, but it is quite an exciting prospect!
 

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Reply #18 - Jun 22nd, 2004 at 4:38pm

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>>>I say we put together a petition, eh?<<<

What if there is nobody left to send it too  ???

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Reply #19 - Jun 23rd, 2004 at 6:25pm

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I was browsing a flight sim magazine today when I saw the exact same question on the letters page. And basically the answer was "we don't know" but apparently there was a job offer on one of the M$ sites for a programmer to work on CFS4. So the chances are it's slowly being made.
 

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Reply #20 - Jun 23rd, 2004 at 9:57pm

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I just feel a general dissapointment in people who expect so much from Microsoft.  I don't know if Microsoft broke even with CFS3, but we all know that it wasn't a great success.  Microsoft will probably cautiously cut their losses, heal their wounds and slowly and securely develop CFS4 as is feasible, not slapping together a slipshod, buggy product like CFS3.  Besides, I think Microsoft knows most of us aren't going to rush out for CFS4, I myself will wait a little to hear the jury.

Just because the select few at the top of Microsoft are rich beyond anybody has a right to be.  The grunts, programmers and workers are still just average joes like us who have a skill they've developed - a skill any of us could've developed if we cared enough to develop it.  Nobody on earth is going to be able to look at pages and pages of C++ code and just say, "Aha!  There's your problem."  Not to mention little things like an uncapitalized letter.  They're still people who are countin' the minutes on the clock so they can go to a burger joint or a bar.  If most people aren't mad at Microsoft in this manner, people really ought to be more specific, since that's the way it comes off.

OK, rant over.  I'm off my soapbox.  Didn't have a whole lot to do with the subject, but it's been botherin' me. Wink
 

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Reply #21 - Jun 23rd, 2004 at 10:31pm

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>>>And basically the answer was "we don't know" but apparently there was a job offer on one of the M$ sites for a programmer to work on CFS4. So the chances are it's slowly being made.<<<

There is no longer a job being offered & it was never filled.

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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2004 at 11:25am

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I really couldnt give a rat's aaaaa.... um i wasnt gonna swear Grin you get the picture. i dont care what CFS4 is about. i jus want it to come out. if MS decide not to bring it out, then shove them. get Ubisoft or another biggish company to do it. i have all three CFS and i have completed them all on campaigns. i'm bored here!!!

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Reply #23 - Jun 28th, 2004 at 12:13am

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Does anyone nows what going on with the develoment of CFS4. UBI is the process of developing a new Simulator for the Pacific and I have not heard anything from MS. I hope MS listen to us their consummer and be not like the Big Three in the Auto Industry were in the early 80s. They wanted to dictate to Buyers what kind of car one  should buy. While the Japanese where giving us what we wanted at the time. It almost cost them their extintion. If you give us a improve version of CFS2 with improve communation ,Squadron control and a all inclusive MB .  Your competition will hard press. You neen not worry I think you still have loyal following . Do not take us for granted.


Who cares what M$ is doing. Oleg Madox left Bill Gates and his cronies in the dust with the introduction of IL2, and Forgotten Battles.

Word is that Ubi soft is prepareing to take over the precision simulation market useing the IL2 engine. Lips Sealed
 

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Reply #24 - Jun 28th, 2004 at 4:58pm

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Who cares what M$ is doing. Oleg Madox left Bill Gates and his cronies in the dust with the introduction of IL2, and Forgotten Battles.

Word is that Ubi soft is prepareing to take over the precision simulation market useing the IL2 engine. 


Define precision.

I don't want to turn this thread into  another IL2/CFS3 debate, but i 'd take any MS sim over IL2 any day.
 

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Reply #25 - Jun 28th, 2004 at 11:21pm

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I would too.
 

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