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Apr 10^th, 2004 at 12:09am

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At last, I just installed a new Radeon card. WOW what a defferance it makes in FS9. Thanks to all for the great advice and info on the cards it sure helped to decide on which card to get.

But with the good there is always a little bad. In my case the Radeon 9600XT is freeze up my comp., and the only thing I can do is to power down. No mouse or keyboard inputs at all.

Has anyone else had this problem? My spec are:

AMD Athlon
1.0 ghz mem
Radeon 9600XT 128 mb

Steve&&&&CPU: Intel Pentium 4 519 3.06 GHz &&Memory: 512MB (256MBx2) DDR PC3200 (400MHz) DIMM &&Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Graphics&&Motherboard: Intel Augsburg &&SATA 8MB Cache 160GB 7200 &&CD R/W ROM, DVD-R/RW&&1 CPU FAN, 1 ANTEC FAN&&300 W PSU, WITH FAN &&FS9/2002&&

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Reply #1 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 4:47am

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Have you tried turning VPU recover off, and set the AGP setting to 4x.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #2 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 8:32am

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Hi. Another thought..........

Did you set the video aperature correctly in your BIOS setup screen? Is the XT card actually a 128M card....or a 256 like the XT designation for the 9800?

Not sure if that would do it..... but it might.

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Reply #3 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 11:34am

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aperture is the system memory that is given to the GFX card if it needs it, not the memory size of the graphics card. You should set your aperture to 64MB or 128MB, or if you have a gig of RAM, 256MB.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #4 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 11:40am

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My 9600 Pro used to lock up with antialiase on with the 3.7 driver out of the box. It's been ok on that issue since I went to the 3.8 or 9 driver and later.

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Reply #5 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 11:49am

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I use Cat 4.3 (Cat 4.1 came with the card,) i have absolutely no problems at all.

Maybe a driver update will help you. The links in my sig \/

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Reply #6 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 1:32pm

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Quote:

aperture is the system memory that is given to the GFX card if it needs it, not the memory size of the graphics card. You should set your aperture to 64MB or 128MB, or if you have a gig of RAM, 256MB.

Hum.... my understanding is that it should be set to match the video card RAM. If you have a 64 eg card... you set 64 m4g....and so on.

Am I wrong?

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Reply #7 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 1:52pm

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You need to set it according to what system memory you have:
RAM Aperture
128MB 64MB
256MB 64/128MB
512MB 128MB
1GB 256MB

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #8 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 2:01pm

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Hi Everyone and thanks for the replys.

Hyvry1_Delta, I've now got the VPU recover off, AGP was set at 4X.

JBaymore: The spec's in the disply panel say that it has 128 mb, and the driver is ver 3.8. I'm not sure how to set the video aperature in BIOS, or what it is set to.

I will try looking into the BIOS and see what I can do there.

Also I was thinking of adding another fan in case it is heat
related. Will let you know what I find out. Thanks.

An after thought; my pre-installed vid card is on the motherboard, How do I disable it, and could it be causing problems ???

Steve&&&&CPU: Intel Pentium 4 519 3.06 GHz &&Memory: 512MB (256MBx2) DDR PC3200 (400MHz) DIMM &&Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Graphics&&Motherboard: Intel Augsburg &&SATA 8MB Cache 160GB 7200 &&CD R/W ROM, DVD-R/RW&&1 CPU FAN, 1 ANTEC FAN&&300 W PSU, WITH FAN &&FS9/2002&&

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Reply #9 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 2:58pm

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It’s your PSU this card needs heavy loads of power, I’ve seen many people having strange lockups after some upgrades (including me). If you have a 420 PSU the problem might be something else, if you have a 350W PSU and your monitor is plugged into it try to plug into another source of power this might be enough.

PS: For the best performance your AGP aperture size should be 50% of your memory.

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Reply #10 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 4:37pm

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BR; Not sure what rating the PSU is, it is stock. I did learn on another not not to plug the monitor into the PSU the hard way Wink

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If I could I would set AGP aperture to 50%, but the BIOS will only let me set it at 256, 25%. Thats the highest option there was.

After making the changes, I reset my screen size from 1024 x768 to 1280 x 1024, then after flying for abt and hr, it froze up again. At 1024x768 it didn't freeze. So I'm thinking it is over heating.

PS: It froze up while I was writing this, got it back by going into sleep mode and back out again???

I'll put in another fan now, and will check the psu, and if need be upgrade it as well.

Steve&&&&CPU: Intel Pentium 4 519 3.06 GHz &&Memory: 512MB (256MBx2) DDR PC3200 (400MHz) DIMM &&Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Graphics&&Motherboard: Intel Augsburg &&SATA 8MB Cache 160GB 7200 &&CD R/W ROM, DVD-R/RW&&1 CPU FAN, 1 ANTEC FAN&&300 W PSU, WITH FAN &&FS9/2002&&

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Reply #11 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 5:36pm

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The 50% thing only works on memory sizes below 512MB, then it becomes 25%, so you setting it to 256MB is good. Have you updated your graphics drivers?

Also if it was heat related on the GFX card you would get strange things appearing on the screen.

Do you have temperature monitoring?
Straight after it crashes get the temperature. For me i have (after heavy gaming session):
49C CPU
39C Case
36C GFX Card (was 45C when i had Win98se, strange!!!)

Also what PSU are you using, Rating, Brand, etc.
After deciding it is not heat, try removing things that are not absolutely necessary for your system, like second cd-drives and USB devices etc. If the crashes stop after this it almost certainly PSU related.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #12 - Apr 10^th, 2004 at 9:10pm

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Hyvry1_Delta; I'm really begining to think that it is the psu. At this moment my case is open, there are fans running on the cpu, graffics card, and in the psu. Plus I installed a fan just below the card that pulls heat away from and out the back and still it will lock up.

So I guess I'll have to tear it down and get a bigger psu. I don't heat montering ablities, except for the cpu and it is at 44* C according to speedfan.

It really looks like it is the psu.

Steve&&&&CPU: Intel Pentium 4 519 3.06 GHz &&Memory: 512MB (256MBx2) DDR PC3200 (400MHz) DIMM &&Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Graphics&&Motherboard: Intel Augsburg &&SATA 8MB Cache 160GB 7200 &&CD R/W ROM, DVD-R/RW&&1 CPU FAN, 1 ANTEC FAN&&300 W PSU, WITH FAN &&FS9/2002&&

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Reply #13 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 4:23am

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If you look at the sticker on the PSU could you post the Brand and Power rating, then we will have a better idea as to whether it is the PSU.

My system:Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64

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Reply #14 - Apr 11^th, 2004 at 4:48am

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Hyvry1_Delta; I think we might have discovered the problem, if the model # below indicates the wattage then I need a bigger psu.

PSU = Made by Bestec, model # ATX-250-12E.

I beleave the psu is a 250 watt unit, and that I'm sure is to low.

Am I wrong on this?

Steve&&&&CPU: Intel Pentium 4 519 3.06 GHz &&Memory: 512MB (256MBx2) DDR PC3200 (400MHz) DIMM &&Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Graphics&&Motherboard: Intel Augsburg &&SATA 8MB Cache 160GB 7200 &&CD R/W ROM, DVD-R/RW&&1 CPU FAN, 1 ANTEC FAN&&300 W PSU, WITH FAN &&FS9/2002&&

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