Search the archive:
Simviation Main Site
|
Site Search
|
Upload Images
Simviation Forum
›
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
›
Hardware
› 9600PRO or Fx5700 ??
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
1
9600PRO or Fx5700 ?? (Read 870 times)
Apr 1
st
, 2004 at 1:08am
sonnyzm
Offline
Lieutenant Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 6
Hi guys, reading these forums helped me narrow down my choice of graphic cards
now I dunno which one to choose either 9600PRO or Fx5700? both have 256 Mb ram and I don't really have any other choices for I'm on a budget hehe, still gotta buy FS 2004 to use with my new GFX card.
thanks in advanced
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #1 -
Apr 1
st
, 2004 at 1:19am
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
The 9600pro by far, i would not recommend the 256Mb model of either of those cards, it not as fast as the 128Mb models. The 9600pro is faster than the 5700, especially in directx.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #2 -
Apr 2
nd
, 2004 at 5:38am
sonnyzm
Offline
Lieutenant Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 6
hmmm.. I was considering the 9600 pro until i saw how many people had problems with this card, see in the link (whole 78 pages of unsatifactoriness
)
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/8596/
lols, so I'm probably goin for the Fx5700 unless someone comes up with a good argument hehe..
Also would having 256MB of graphics RAM be good in FS2004 becos it has lotsa textures and stuff?
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #3 -
Apr 2
nd
, 2004 at 6:22am
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
If you have a KT400 mobo you may have problems, other than that you will have no problems.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #4 -
Apr 2
nd
, 2004 at 7:35am
sonnyzm
Offline
Lieutenant Colonel
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 6
hehe, really?? i am reconsidering now, Hopefully you're correct, thanks for ur help Hyvry1_Delta, cheers
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #5 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 4:18pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
The FX5700 Ultra is a nice solution (faster than the ATI card) if you go with the nVidia. The plain vanilla FX5700 isn't as fast as the 9600 pro though.
I briefly tried out a 9600XT on my AMD rig (nForce2 chipset) and had no probs using the latest drivers and a fresh install of WinXP.
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #6 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 4:38pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
If you want something faster than the 5700U get the 9600xt.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #7 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:08pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
Quote:
If you want something faster than the 5700U get the 9600xt.
Actually, in the tests I saw at Tom's Hardware Guide, those cards are practically identical in performance, but I haven't compared them myself.
Also, I'd like to add my observation that the 9600XT I tested was only slightly better than my current GF4 TI4200 in the default Seattle flight in FS9. The 9600XT was definitely faster in antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, (heavy cloud, distant textures), that gave it the edge. For raw speed, the old GF4 TI's are still up there with respectable performance.
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #8 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:22pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
You must remember the 9600xt uses P.S2.0 aswell. the Ti does not.
If you compare the 9600xt in DX9 modes, like modern games, to the 5700U the 9600xt wins by far.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #9 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:42pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
What's P.S2.0 ? Oh, I get it, I wouldn't know......
Also, Hyvry1_Delta, have you compared these cards yourself, say on the same or similar machines, I'm really interested in finding someone with personal experience in the comparison.
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #10 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:46pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
Pixel shader 2.0. It gives the unbelievably realistic shine on aircraft and water etc. Not the strange looking shine.
No not the 9600xt and the 5700U, i have with the 9600xt and teh 5200. The 9600xt wins by far, obviously. I am going from what i read and see as benchmarks, also from what i know from guru3d.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #11 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:51pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
Ahhhh, You could do a screenshot for me, and I could send in a screenie of my shine, I didn't know. thx
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #12 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 6:55pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
I can't right now or for a few days, but i will by the end of next week. My pc is in pieces (partially), i am revamping it a bit, also replacing a DVD drive that broke this morning for unknown reasons, it was a Sony one aswell. I am getting a combo drive to replace it.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #13 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 7:00pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
ok, thx,
My Sony CDROM just died after 2 yrs......
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #14 -
Apr 3
rd
, 2004 at 7:09pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
1.5yrs for me. I am switching to Lite-on, i have been told they are very reliable and perform very well. Hopefully it will last atleast 5 yrs, that is what expect a drive to last atleast, 10 years would be a good amount though, considering i am a moderate user.
I am just waiting for parts for my pc to arrive so that it can be up and running again and i will post my shots with this card, which actually will be the first shots i have posted with my card on SimV. The other shots in the freeware forum are with my old card, Radeon 7000.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #15 -
Apr 8
th
, 2004 at 4:58pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
Sorry for the double post:
Notice the nice water shading with the sky and sunlight reflecting off the water.
«
Last Edit: Apr 8
th
, 2004 at 6:49pm by Delta_
»
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #16 -
Apr 9
th
, 2004 at 10:56am
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
I cant tell the difference, this is with my DirectX 8 compatible GeForce4 TI4200. My aircraft reflections are good too, as you can see from this black EF2000
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #17 -
Apr 9
th
, 2004 at 12:04pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
That is a close up shot, also those clouds are maxed out in the background, in fact all settings maxed out (inc 4xAA and 16xAF). I was getting 30fps locked in that shot.
«
Last Edit: Apr 9
th
, 2004 at 6:33pm by Delta_
»
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #18 -
Apr 10
th
, 2004 at 7:55pm
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
This is everything maxed out on the TI4200, remember, it's a DX8 card, so why are there reflections and wave textures (non standard textures), or do they render differently on DX9 cards?
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #19 -
Apr 11
th
, 2004 at 6:02pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
I am wondering whether M$ put any DX9 features in this sim. Can you put the water setting to high and it stay high, because on mine i can. If you can't on yours then i wonder what the benefit of the high setting is.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #20 -
Apr 16
th
, 2004 at 8:06am
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
yes the setting will stay on high, but the detail slider above it, (which shows up the little speckles), goes back to terrain only, which isn't really an issue at all unless it's a very close up shot of the water.
Believe me, I was very surprised to see the supposed DX9 effects on my card.
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #21 -
Apr 16
th
, 2004 at 4:34pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
I found out why FS9 is DX9, the graphics are DX8.1 and some of the sound is DX9. That is why FS9 uses DX9. It uses P.S1.4 not P.S2 (which you need a DX9 accelerated card for)
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #22 -
Apr 17
th
, 2004 at 3:03am
congo
Offline
Colonel
Make BIOS your Friend
Australia
Gender:
Posts: 3663
You mean a DX9 soundcard?
Mainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24" WS LCD
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #23 -
Apr 17
th
, 2004 at 3:13pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
I thinks DX9 drivers for the soundcard would do, but i don't know a lot about the differences between DX8.1 sound DX9.0 sound, but FS9 is definetly DX8.1 graphics and some parts of the sound are DX9.0.
I have not noticed any cards boosting about which DX they are accelerated for, this leads me to believe it is driver related.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Pages:
1
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
« Home
‹ Board
Top of this page
Forum Jump »
Home
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
Current Flight Simulator Series
- Flight Simulator X
- FS 2004 - A Century of Flight
- Adding Aircraft Traffic (AI) & Gates
- Flight School
- Flightgear
- MS Flight
Graphic Gallery
- Simviation Screenshots Showcase
- Screenshot Contest
- Edited Screenshots
- Photos & Cameras
- Payware Screenshot Showcase
- Studio V Screenshot Workshop
- Video
- The Cage
Design Forums
- Aircraft & 3D Design
- Scenery & Panel Design
- Aircraft Repainting
- Designer Feedback
General
- General Discussion
- Humour
- Music, Arts & Entertainment
- Sport
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
- Hardware ««
- Tweaking & Overclocking
- Computer Games & Software
- HomeBuild Cockpits
Addons Most Wanted
- Aircraft Wanted
- Other Add-ons Wanted
Real World
- Real Aviation
- Specific Aircraft Types
- Autos
- History
On-line Interactive Flying
- Virtual Airlines Events & Messages
- Multiplayer
Simviation Site
- Simviation News & Info
- Suggestions for these forums
- Site Questions & Feedback
- Site Problems & Broken Links
Combat Flight Simulators
- Combat Flight Simulator 3
- Combat Flight Simulator 2
- Combat Flight Simulator
- CFS Development
- IL-2 Sturmovik
Other Websites
- Your Site
- Other Sites
Payware
- Payware
Old Flight Simulator Series
- FS 2002
- FS 2000
- Flight Simulator 98
Simviation Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.5 AE
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.