Simviation Forum - 9600PRO or Fx5700 ??

Apr 1^st, 2004 at 1:08am

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Hi guys, reading these forums helped me narrow down my choice of graphic cards Wink

now I dunno which one to choose either 9600PRO or Fx5700? both have 256 Mb ram and I don't really have any other choices for I'm on a budget hehe, still gotta buy FS 2004 to use with my new GFX card. Tongue

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Reply #1 - Apr 1^st, 2004 at 1:19am

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The 9600pro by far, i would not recommend the 256Mb model of either of those cards, it not as fast as the 128Mb models. The 9600pro is faster than the 5700, especially in directx.

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Reply #2 - Apr 2^nd, 2004 at 5:38am

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hmmm.. I was considering the 9600 pro until i saw how many people had problems with this card, see in the link (whole 78 pages of unsatifactoriness Shocked

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http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/8596/

lols, so I'm probably goin for the Fx5700 unless someone comes up with a good argument hehe..

Also would having 256MB of graphics RAM be good in FS2004 becos it has lotsa textures and stuff?

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Reply #3 - Apr 2^nd, 2004 at 6:22am

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If you have a KT400 mobo you may have problems, other than that you will have no problems.

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Reply #4 - Apr 2^nd, 2004 at 7:35am

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hehe, really?? i am reconsidering now, Hopefully you're correct, thanks for ur help Hyvry1_Delta, cheers Wink

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Reply #5 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 4:18pm

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The FX5700 Ultra is a nice solution (faster than the ATI card) if you go with the nVidia. The plain vanilla FX5700 isn't as fast as the 9600 pro though.

I briefly tried out a 9600XT on my AMD rig (nForce2 chipset) and had no probs using the latest drivers and a fresh install of WinXP.

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Reply #6 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 4:38pm

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If you want something faster than the 5700U get the 9600xt.

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Reply #7 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:08pm

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Quote:

If you want something faster than the 5700U get the 9600xt.

Actually, in the tests I saw at Tom's Hardware Guide, those cards are practically identical in performance, but I haven't compared them myself.

Also, I'd like to add my observation that the 9600XT I tested was only slightly better than my current GF4 TI4200 in the default Seattle flight in FS9. The 9600XT was definitely faster in antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, (heavy cloud, distant textures), that gave it the edge. For raw speed, the old GF4 TI's are still up there with respectable performance.

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Reply #8 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:22pm

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You must remember the 9600xt uses P.S2.0 aswell. the Ti does not.

If you compare the 9600xt in DX9 modes, like modern games, to the 5700U the 9600xt wins by far.

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Reply #9 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:42pm

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What's P.S2.0 ? Oh, I get it, I wouldn't know...... Cry

Also, Hyvry1_Delta, have you compared these cards yourself, say on the same or similar machines, I'm really interested in finding someone with personal experience in the comparison.

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Reply #10 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:46pm

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Pixel shader 2.0. It gives the unbelievably realistic shine on aircraft and water etc. Not the strange looking shine.

No not the 9600xt and the 5700U, i have with the 9600xt and teh 5200. The 9600xt wins by far, obviously. I am going from what i read and see as benchmarks, also from what i know from guru3d.

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Reply #11 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:51pm

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Ahhhh, You could do a screenshot for me, and I could send in a screenie of my shine, I didn't know. thx

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Reply #12 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 6:55pm

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I can't right now or for a few days, but i will by the end of next week. My pc is in pieces (partially), i am revamping it a bit, also replacing a DVD drive that broke this morning for unknown reasons, it was a Sony one aswell. I am getting a combo drive to replace it.

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Reply #13 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 7:00pm

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ok, thx,

My Sony CDROM just died after 2 yrs...... Tongue

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Reply #14 - Apr 3^rd, 2004 at 7:09pm

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1.5yrs for me. I am switching to Lite-on, i have been told they are very reliable and perform very well. Hopefully it will last atleast 5 yrs, that is what expect a drive to last atleast, 10 years would be a good amount though, considering i am a moderate user.

I am just waiting for parts for my pc to arrive so that it can be up and running again and i will post my shots with this card, which actually will be the first shots i have posted with my card on SimV. The other shots in the freeware forum are with my old card, Radeon 7000.

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