Simviation Forum - Simple scenery design.

Feb 20^th, 2004 at 10:05pm

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Are there any graphical scenery design programs that DO NOT rely on cordinates or a i.q. of 185+??? I just want a really simple scenery design program for fs2k2 and cfs2+1.

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Reply #1 - Feb 21^st, 2004 at 2:44pm

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No

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Reply #2 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 4:13pm

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Surprised I am not.

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Reply #3 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 4:15pm

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Well are there any graphical design programs that do??? I may just use slew mode to find out what the cordinates are.

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Reply #4 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 4:23pm

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I'm no rocket scientist & I find FSSC easy enough to use. http://fssc.avsim.net/
Of course, you have to spend a little time learning the ropes like anything else worthwhile. Read the included tutes & try a few test pieces. You should soon get the hang of it.

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Reply #5 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 9:01pm

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Doug, as you know I've always been a fan of FSSC and I've used it to do Kai Tak

However, Airport version 3 which is just out is IMHO now streets ahead and I would thoroughly recommend it.

I've used it for my carrier package (now in test) and done things I couldn't do in FSSC. Also Tom has already taken up some of the stuff from the new SDK and is working towards the total design package that I always predicted would be the next step. I predict he will beat Lee Swordy to it Wink

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Reply #6 - Feb 22^nd, 2004 at 9:29pm

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I agree, Airport for Windows 3.0 (build 188 is the latest) is excellent! Also the price is perfect....free!

Also, Tom has started a program called SceneGenX which will be the XML version of AFW. It's in Alpha right now at build 3. I have already placed some scenery with it and it worked great.

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Reply #7 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:15am

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Doug, as you know I've always been a fan of FSSC and I've used it to do Kai Tak

However, Airport version 3 which is just out is IMHO now streets ahead and I would thoroughly recommend it.

Thanks Roger & FaxCap for your comments. I have nothing but respect for Tom & the guys for what they're doing with Airport. However, I've always found it difficult to understand. I'm sure I'm not alone & suspect this has put many people off scenery design in the past. I would recommend FSSC to newbies as I'm sure they would find it much easier to understand & work with than Airport. Like most things it gets easier once you understand the basic principles. Wink

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Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:12pm

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Can you build mountains in FSSC???

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Reply #9 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:22pm

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No. You would need a terrain mesh utility. These are available but the others will know more about them than me. FSSC & Airport are basically used for creating/updating airports.

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Reply #10 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:29pm

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Can you build mountains in FSSC

You could probably build simple mountains with no slopes, but it wouldn't look all that great Undecided

Have a look at FS Terrain

http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/programs/fstrn.htm

PS... I think you can also use Ground 2k.

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Reply #11 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:36pm

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Guess what... I tried to download Airport 2.10 and winzip tells me that it is not a valid archive once it is downloaded!!! It is also 244kb in size as aposed to the 5.3mb that it says on the scenery design page on simviation.

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Reply #12 - Feb 23^rd, 2004 at 8:43pm

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NM I found it.

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Reply #13 - Feb 24^th, 2004 at 9:19am

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I tried to download Airport 2.10

You're missing the point. Read what RollerBall & FaxCap said.
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Airport version 3 which is just out

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I agree, Airport for Windows 3.0 (build 188 is the latest)

http://www.airportforwindows.com/

I still think you would find FSSC easier to learn the basics. Then you can progress to Airport if you wish.

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Reply #14 - Feb 29^th, 2004 at 6:57pm

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do u think guys before long that lee swordy will update afcad to create buildings and so forth??

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