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Reply #15 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 6:06am

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Sorry Hagar but most people that would reply too this thread don't come to the "Auto" forum, like I said I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the fact that I clicked on it in "Discussion".

I'm inclined to agree on that point. The fact that the topic is still in the General forum would seem to cancel this out. Undecided

I cannot agree about racing drivers being athletes. To me an athlete is a person relying solely on their physical fitness & prowess to compete with others on equal terms. Racing drivers are indeed very fit but no more so that anyone who works out regularly. An unfit but highly experienced driver in a better car would invariably beat a fit one.

Driving a modern racing car is by itself not physically demanding. It's possible to compete in a motor race with a broken leg which would be impossible for an athlete in any conventional sport. Apart from general fitness the prime concern for a successful racing driver is stamina & strong neck muscles to counteract the considerable G forces in turns.
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 9:37am

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Definitely got to disagree with you on that one Doug.  Sitting yes, but what they have to endure in the course of a four hour, 500 mile race is almost beyond comprehension.  If you're definition of an athlete is how much they sweat, then they definitely do that.
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 10:14am

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Posted by: cub125 Posted on: Feb 17th, 2004, 9:36pm
NO!!! it isn't in the right forum!
Hi Cub, I am sorry you are angry.  ???
As moderators, we try to keep everybody happy!  Grin
The reason this is in the autos section is because it is a discussion about autos, correct?
Seems to me that allot of members are conversing here.  Grin

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Definitely got to disagree with you on that one Doug.  Sitting yes, but what they have to endure in the course of a four hour, 500 mile race is almost beyond comprehension.  If you're definition of an athlete is how much they sweat, then they definitely do that. 
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Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 10:18am

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You're missing my point Kevin. It seems that we disagree on almost everything these days but despite what you might think I'm not deliberately trying to be awkward. Wink

Yes - racing drivers need to be fit, yes they sweat, yes they can lose many pounds of weight during a race. I agree on all these points. 10 laps as a passenger in a Lamborghini Diablo around Goodwood race track exhausted me for the rest of the day. That does not make racing drivers athletes as their performance or success in a race is not dependent on their physical physique or fitness.
 

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Reply #19 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 6:46pm

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Hi Cub, I am sorry you are angry.  ???
As moderators, we try to keep everybody happy!  Grin
The reason this is in the autos section is because it is a discussion about autos, correct?
Seems to me that allot of members are conversing here.  Grin

Nicely said Kevin! Couldn't agree more!

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ok i dont necesarily have a problem about posting racing threads here, because most race fans go here.
but this is not a thread about autos, it is about sports in general, and in order to have an accurite representation of what EVERYONE thinks, it should be in the most used forum, right?  I do not believe that everyone who would reply to this thread is in the autos section, because a baseball fan who does not know about autos would go to the general section, and not go to the autos section, right?  So, this thread DOES belong in the general section.

I think the level of concentration that a race car driver endures is an accomplishment in itself, oh look! a blue car!
 

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Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 7:42pm

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 7:44pm

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Ok, so please move it back to the general section. Smiley
 

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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 8:39pm

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i find that this post talks ONLY about F1 racing, which no matter if it is a sport or not, or if the drivers are athletes or not, it still is about car racing, i don't think that it being in the auto forum will bias anyone's opinion

if other moderators see differently, please feel inclined to move it, personally i think it is fine where it is now

 

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Reply #23 - Feb 19th, 2004 at 7:59am

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Posted by: The Ruptured Duck Posted on: Feb Th, 2004, 7PM
OK, so please move it back to the general section.

Cub, you sure are persistent for somebody who is NEW to the forums. I am sure that after being here a while , you will focus more on the content of the thread and not the location. After all, you don't want to be "black flagged"  Wink
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2004 at 8:06am

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Hey Doug, anyone who gets to drive a Diablo around a race track is ok by me, no matter how much his opinion differs from mine.  Besides, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who agreed with everything I said.  How do you grow as a person when everyone you know agrees with everything you say?  Smiley

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I give up! This is going no where   Undecided


Yeah, it pretty much is...

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Ok, so please move it back to the general section.   Smiley


Duck, don't be offended.  Everyone get's a post moved from time to time.  In fact I would hazard a guess that there a very few memebers (including moderators) who haven't had one moved.  It's just something that happens, and there need be no hard feelings about it.  Smiley

In fact, I think I'll do a poll on that...
 

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Reply #25 - Feb 19th, 2004 at 7:55pm

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Cub, you sure are persistent for somebody who is NEW to the forums. I am sure that after being here a while , you will focus more on the content of the thread and not the location. After all, you don't want to be "black flagged"  Wink
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New? me? no way
ive been using this forum for at least 2 years
why havent you seen me?  well, at times people piss me off, and things go bad.  If you would actually read all of my posts, you would find that i have said this before.

And to continue my persistancy, I do not have a problem with having someone move a post, its what he moved is what I have a problem with(especially becasue I asked specificly, not to have it moved in the origional post and explained why)And i do not have a problem with moderators, just to put out that fire before it starts!

It seems to me that I have been trying to get this point across in almost all of my posts, but too many people just skim though it.
 

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Reply #26 - Feb 20th, 2004 at 3:16am

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New? me? no way
ive been using this forum for at least 2 years
why havent you seen me?  well, at times people piss me off, and things go bad.  If you would actually read all of my posts, you would find that i have said this before.

Maybe if you just lighten up a little. This is supposed to be fun & not taken too seriously. I've read most of your posts & you have some interesting things to say. Please don't go off in a huff again over something silly like this. Wink
 

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Reply #27 - Feb 20th, 2004 at 9:08am

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why havent you seen me?  


Since you've only been a member since Feb 9, not 2 years, then it's no wonder we haven't seen you.  Your next argument may be "I was using another Identity"  If you used to go by another identity, then what was it?  I sure hope it wasn't Brad...
 

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Reply #28 - Feb 20th, 2004 at 9:10am

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Yes race driving is a sport. No drivers are not atheletes. What pippin says about atheletes being people who participate in sport is correct. However this does not neccesarily work the other way round. Meaning someone who participates in sport does not have to be an athelete.

Sailing is a sport. But are the people who sail the boats atheletes? No they're sailors. So someone who races a car round a track is a driver.

The only time a racing driver has to do anything athletic is when he has to run to his car at the start of Le Mans 24 hours. Wink
 

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Reply #29 - Feb 20th, 2004 at 11:03am

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I do not have a problem with having someone move a post, its what he moved is what I have a problem with(especially because I asked specifically, not to have it moved in the original post and explained why)
That "He" would be Me and WHAT I MOVED was a thread about autos to the Autos Section!!!!

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because I asked specifically, not to have it moved
Is this the reason you are so upset? If so I think you should stop acting like it was a personal attack on you and focus your energies someplace else. This is an Aviation forum, not a debate club!

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And i do not have a problem with moderators, just to put out that fire before it starts!
Then let's drop it and discuss what your original thread was about. It seems most everybody else is engaging your post except you!

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The only time a racing driver has to do anything athletic is when he has to run to his car at the start of Le Mans 24 hours.
Then what is the Pit Crew considered Woody?  Wink  Wink

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